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I sure like the way that ended up, and so does the NFL.

He’s just 22 now so by the end of the guaranteed money, he’ll either have been good enough that the Tigers will pick up the big option years or they will buy him out and he’ll be able to enter free agency at a relatively young 27 years old. But I agree with you that it’s surprising he didn’t get at least one guaranteed year at the end of the contract worth big money like $10 million or so, rather than them all being non-guaranteed options. That is usually the payoff for signing these team friendly deals way early in one’s career.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/01/tigers-sign-colt-keith-to-six-year-extension.html They aren’t Boras, that’s for sure.

You’re right. No big guaranteed payout for any single year at the end of the deal and those buyouts are tiny. That’s better than Hahn’s contracts and is ridiculously team friendly. Sure doesn’t seem like the kid is all that confident in his abilities, but I guess he is now set for life regardless of what happens. Even if he doesn’t pan out as a starter, that isn’t horribly overpriced for a bench bat that can play 2B and 3B.

I think your expectations may be too high then. The Sox are trading 2 years of control of what some people don’t think is an ace. I think it’s fair to at least call Cease a very good #2 starter right now with ace potential. If the Sox get 6 years of a #3 starter back for 2 years of a #2 starter, how much more talent should the Sox get back along with that starter? Guys like Woo and Miller are now considered to be proven mid rotation MLB starters. If you want a large return, you would have to forego these guys and go for an all prospect return.

I guess when people talk about the Sox positional prospects, they mainly just mention two guys (Montgomery and Ramos) and I have seen people putting both in potential future lineups, but you are probably right.

NFL is upset right now. You know they want the big Chiefs / 49ers matchup, not the Lions.

Baltimore fans, your baseball team will suffer the same fate of your football team if you don’t acquire Cease. ?

There’s always a risk of this guy busting, but many posters here think Bryan Ramos is a sure-fire starter in the future and Keith’s minor league numbers blow his away.

To be fair, Burger will be turning 28 to start the season in April. But why you would allow your outgoing front office to swing highly impactful trades before they are canned still makes zero sense to me.

He was also drafted by the Cubs with the knowledge that he needed TJ surgery.

Buehrle was a 38th round pick.

Sounds like we have the guy already in Eloy.

I didn’t realize he was pretty old now (33). I doubt he cost much. Hasn’t he struggled with a lot of injuries over the last few years?

It’s actually one of the most sensical things Levine has said in awhile. If Cease suffers a bad injury, his value could drop to zero. It would definitely be playing with fire to hold Cease until the deadline. Yes, he could stay healthy, pitch well, and raise his value. But he could also pitch worse and/or get injured.

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Getz, please claim this guy and see what he can do in Spring Training. A 26 year old lefty bat that can play RF, 1B, and some 3B. Monster numbers in the minors last year. He hit 30 HR and stole 32 bases. His strikeout rate is awful but he would basically cost nothing so it’s worth a shot. He also has a sweet ass name, haha. I’d cut Sheets for this guy. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/01/angels-designate-trey-cabbage-for-assignment.html

Probably already posted here but just in case it wasn’t. https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/mlb/chicago-white-sox/white-sox-news/white-sox-asking-for-the-sun-and-the-moon-for-dylan-cease-reports/535746/

The Sox were innovators in this area with Dave Wilder.

Seriously. This means absolutely nothing. Bruce actually had one of his first coherent and sensical tweets above in a long time, talking about the risk of not trading Cease before opening day.

You keep saying this and that the Sox have had a better offseason than the Cubs, which I can’t see how with all the dumpster diving Getz has done. But let’s see where both teams end up come opening day.

No, this doesn’t make sense for the simple fact that Varsho has too much service time already and Jerry isn’t going to want the primary return in a Cease trade being someone that he will have to pay money too via salary arbitration or a contract extension. He and Getz will both want cheap young players with minimal or no service time.

I’ve been saying this for awhile. The risk is definitely too high. Also, When the GM is literally saying they are still looking for OF help (probably Whit) and to trade Cease, I think that says it all.