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Imagine acquiring both Ortiz and Madrigal to team with Lopez. Sox fans would be slap-happy. An infield of Vaughn, Lopez, Ortiz, and Madrigal would put up 25 homers combined, maybe 30 if they were lucky. ?

I don’t think he’s on the trade block anymore but Burnes gets almost twice as much as Cease in his final season before hitting the open market.

I guess we’ll see what happens. No one knows what packages have even been offered for Cease. It’s too bad we can’t see what Getz has turned down so far.

Getz: “Not everyone is perfect.”

Oscar Colas, Brett Phillips, Rafael Ortega deathmatch for opening day RF.

Yes, assuming that the prospects a team gives up actually pan out to be anywhere near as good as Snell or Cease. That’s not always a given, as Sox fans have seen from the return on the Sale trade. Those two sure-thing prospects turned into busts pretty quickly.

I doubt Getz panics about anything. He was gifted with a GM job and apparently doesn’t even have to win anytime soon, judging by the roster he has put together for 2024. He cut payroll and went dumpster diving in free agency, which is good enough for Jerry.

I just did some googling. Stroman called Bob Brenly of the Diamondbacks racist for a comment about his durag. Then he said that Mets fans yelled racist comments at him and threatened his life, so he also called the Mets racist for not defending him against the fans. He also called Michael Kay, the Yankees announcer, a racist for not having more black or Hispanic co-hosts on his ESPN radio show.

Competition (fodder) for Brett Phillips for Sox defensive backup outfielder.

Slappy outfielder Steven Kwan has a higher career OPS in the majors (.740) than first baseman Andrew Vaughn (.735). But hey, maybe those college numbers will translate for Vaughn someday…

Boras using his loyal servant Heyman to get teams to up their offers for Snell.

Disaster zone. Watching every Cease start for an entire first half hoping nothing bad happens (poor performance or injury). Not for the faint of heart.

No one knows what the offers for Cease are. Maybe Getz is truly asking for a ridiculous return? We don’t know. The other possibilities are: (3) Cease pitches worse in 2024 than he did in 2023 and the trade offers for him drop even further. (4) Cease suffers a severe injury and the Sox get absolutely nothing for him. Sox completely waste the asset of two years of control of a healthy Cease.

Per Heyman.

True, I always thought that the Pirates took back less in the way of prospects in that deal to get back Musgrove, who they wanted to replace Cole. But it also goes to show that prospects barely pan out, which is why I guess it makes sense that Getz is sticking to his guns for a highly rated return.

Knowing that he currently has only two big trade chips to move, I would be shocked if Getz has the balls to retain Cease into the season, risk injury, and truly get nothing at all for him, rather than some highly rated prospects that may or may not pan out, just like all prospects.

Sure, but you are using the benefit of hindsight to make the trade look worse than it was at the time. I could say the same about the White Sox/Red Sox Chris Sale trade. Moncada and Kopech turned into bums so it was a bad trade — “pretty much comparable to zero at the end of the day.” https://www.crawfishboxes.com/platform/amp/2018/1/15/16893418/diving-deep-into-the-astros-gerrit-cole-trade-pirates-musgrove-moran-feliz

There are impactful transfers from other high schools on the way to BR. Coach Q is doing the work.

And Busch also had a lot of time to marinate in the minors, while Vaughn was rushed. Busch was held back by his own defense (or lack thereof) and that the Dodgers were already stacked at every position. I would definitely put my money on Busch outhitting Vaughn next year. Vaughn hasn’t OPS’ed over .750 yet.

Actually, risk getting zero if he suffers a bad injury.

Ours fell apart even faster than those windows.

Agreed. The biggest mistake of the offseason would be not trading Cease. Even with a guy who has stayed healthy in the big leagues (he got the TJ surgery out of the way when he was drafted), with typical awful Sox luck, you know he would suffer some sort of devastating injury if he pitches for the Sox in the first half.

I realize you want pitching back in any trade involving Cease, but there was just an article that stated that Getz was now open to taking back the best package of prospects rather than focusing on getting pitching back.

Agreed. Sweet name on him too. But don’t we already know that the Orioles aren’t going to do anything in free agency? If they do, it will be for someone cheap.

I’m not saying it will happen but Mayo and Cowser seems to be closer to reality than your trade proposal. The media has been saying 2 top prospects and 2 lesser prospects.