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4/7 White Sox at Oakland game thread
Hatchetman replied to southsider2k5's topic in 2016 Season in Review
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QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Apr 5, 2016 -> 02:40 PM) Dear Steve Stone, Jed Lowrie Brett Lawrie. These last names sound different. Learn it. how are they supposed to be pronounced? better tell Farmio and DJ too.
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I've only heard a few snippets here and there. Boring is 100x better than idiotic though. Looking forward to it.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 22, 2016 -> 09:31 AM) He put in about 6 years of great pitching before he ran into problems. Realistically if you get that out of Carson Fulmer you jump up and down for joy. He has also given you about three more years of 5th starter type numbers even after problems started. OK. Six years. Let's use them up in the majors is all I'm saying. I'm sure he'll be up soon enough anyway.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 22, 2016 -> 09:18 AM) He's short and he's got a high intensity motion. A guy that made it quite a while with no problems is Tim Lincecum. Quite a while? Through age 27.
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Has Rollins played any 2B or 3B this spring?
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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 22, 2016 -> 08:53 AM) You can't predict when a guys arm is supposed to fall off. Sales arm was supposed to be reattached three times by now I tend to agree, but I think we are in the minority. Likely a reason he dropped in the draft.
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I'm confused where Ventura is and isn't supposed to be involved in clubhouse activities. KW creates a s***-storm and Ventura is supposed to clean it up?
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I'd say rush him to the big leagues since his arm is supposed to fall off sooner rather than later. As Coop said, "we didn't draft a guy this high to be a reliever."
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2016 White Sox Opening Day Roster Predictions
Hatchetman replied to Y2Jimmy0's topic in Pale Hose Talk
After lo these many years I still cannot wrap my head around a seven man bullpen and how that can actually be the optimal roster. -
Most hated player in White Sox history
Hatchetman replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
For me it will always be Jaime Navarro. -
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 19, 2016 -> 09:16 PM) Uh, if guys are going over his head with a problem, by definition, his authority has already been undermined. That's not really true, just because some malcontent goes to the big boss doesn't mean the manager is incompetent. Coincidence that Ventura IS incompetent in this scenario.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 19, 2016 -> 07:08 PM) People went to the Managers bosses, boss, which is why it was handled by him. Then the bosses' boss should have told the Manager to handle the situation and not completely undermine his authority.
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This is why it wasn't put in writing, from players union chief Tony Clark. Clark did say the union is interested in separate rules and policies set by clubs, especially if they violate baseball's labor contract. "We are interested in those, particularly when we find out about them," Clark said. "And we're always concerned about any individual agreement violates the collective bargaining agreement as a whole.
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So somebody complained to Ventura. Ventura decided not to change the situation. Then that somebody escalated it up to KW, who, going against Ventura's decision, decided to intervene in clubhouse management. This likely after Laroche was signed by the front office and Ventura was told the kid was part of the package. Totally normal.
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Most obviously this should have been handled by the MANAGER, not the MANAGER's bosses' boss.
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If he were selfish he would have just shown up to collect the cash until he got released.
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QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 03:40 PM) think back on the whole thibs fiasco and JR had to finally step in. i think there will be some changes to key players, maybe not right away. Mark Salas is probably sweating bullets right now.
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Counting terrible player contracts and terrible attendance/viewership, KW has probably cost the Sox well over $100M due to his incompetence. If that doesn't get him fired, nothing will.
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QUOTE (iamshack @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 02:40 PM) While I am certainly not claiming Kenny is innocent, this strikes me as a complete organizational failure, where the owner, the president, the general manager, the manager, and the players are all complicit. If you want to fire someone just to say you did something, fair enough. But if you truly wanted to fix the root cause, I think you're probably missing the mark by simply firing the President. If that is the case you fire the guy in charge.
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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 02:31 PM) I really don't believe a word Laroche says at this point. Why not?
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LaRoche with a pretty strong statement puts all eyes on KW.
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I believe Sale has done more to help this team win than KW has over the past 5 years.
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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:55 PM) KW doesn't have an MBA. He has 1 semester at Stanford. I stand corrected. I thought he had gone back to school. Maybe he should.
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QUOTE (Condor13 @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:46 PM) I don't know why everyone is ripping Sale or even Eaton. Sale is doing exactly what you want a leader of the clubhouse to do, bring the team together and stick up for family. KW appears to be a complete ass and has cause this entire situaltion. It even appears he manipulated the situation to his liking by tell the players the coaches had a problem with Drake, telling the coaches players had a problem with him, and telling everyone that this decision came from the owner. Sale better damn make some waves bc of this and he is 100% correct that is should have been KW walking of the locker room and not LaRoche. Hey I'm almost on board with this. KW is the one who really botched this s*** up. He's supposed to be the sophisticated Senior Exec with the MBA.