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Sure, as soon as you explain how someone retains any of their previous arm strength after TJS and subsequent arm immobilization during healing

That’s the exact same thing Crochet did. The 18 month rehab. Any building prior to the surgery would be irrelevant because it would be gone after the healing process is finished

Say what you will about Getz, getting useful returns for relievers when your team sucks I will always get behind. If Soroka remains healthy to the deadline, that trade could look like a stroke of genius. At worst we got a couple of utility players and some AAAA starting pitching depth for a reliever that drove us nuts and even at top form wasn’t going to help us any

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Then how did countless other TJS pitchers come back after only the same TJS rehab Crochet went through, if not less advanced versions of it. I don’t think any of them could have put in the eqivalent of 1000 innings of work, wherever that came from, in those 18 months. It’s kind of flabbergasting that people are arguing that isn’t enough to prepare the arm for a full workload, when it has in fact been done repeatedly.

Right but post injury his arm would have had to be completely rebuilt from scratch. That’s why it was a seemingly miraculous procedure, and why it takes 18 months when it heals after only two, roughly.

I don’t see how that is analogous. Tommy John clearly rebuilt his arm solely through a 18 month TJS rehab in order to run a marathon, as he made about 165 mlb starts in the five years following it. How is that TOTALLY different? Crochet has been rehabbing for considerably more than 18 months. Presumably he has put in the thousands of miles of roadwork, or at least the amount necessary as countless others have done after TJS

Tommy John himself came back from the first TJS, after roughly 18 months of rehab, and pitched 207 effective MLB innings without a single rehab appearance in “actual game play.” And that was some 45 years ago. Crochet has had more time than that with 40+ years of advancement to the process. If done properly, his arm should be a cannon by now

Every time a pitcher has TJS, he is rebuilding his arm from scratch, yet they often come back with full workloads as effective or more so than ever. Previous workloads are practically irrelevant since the arm has to be completely rehabilitated. After two months of immobilzation, every pitchers arm strength has been reduced to virtually zero. So if it can be done by other pitchers, to go from be incapable of throwing a baseball at all, to being strong enough for a full workload following rehab, without any actual game innings involved in that rehab, there is no reason it couldn’t be done with Crochet. When they shut him down from gameplay with shoulder discomfort, he still continued his rehab. He wasn’t shut down from activities for more than a few days. At any rate, not sure how you can claim there is no way on earth when so many pitchers have come back stronger than ever from TJS

Crochet had Tommy John surgery on april 2, 2022. The healing time is approximately two months, the rest is arm rehabilitation. So he has been rebuilding his arm since approximately june 2, 2022. That’s nearly two years, he should be stronger than ever if that rehab was done properly