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I don’t think any clarity was required there. You could have just posted ‘shitbag’ and I’d have been fairly confident to whom you were referring

Why do you credit the tertiary source? Seems the athletic is source, per NYT, as posted to twitter by some guy

Sure, you can. But why would you have to. Not even enough self confidence to attach a make shift antenna to a TV. That is one of the saddest things i have ever read

Ok, you guys have convinced me. Bad decisions didn’t lead to the Sox being the worst team in sports, and one of them wasn’t paying more for three evidently baseball stupid guys who absolutely sucked balls than for a full rotation pitchers who could have been easily retained that were able to accumulate 21 WAR in a single season. I now see why you reject my premises with your stellar points

Yep

Is that why they only sign them to 25+ million per year First, I noticed that you flipped it from the value of starting pitching which we were discussing to just pitching. Second, I noticed that your list is inaccurate

They could have retained that staff while jettisoning the likes of Eloy, Robert and Moncada, probably receiving useful pieces in return, while opening up payroll for further acquisitions, but instead chose the inverse. The Sox could have signed Rodon and Lopez to more favorable extensions had they extended them reasonable offers in a timely fashion imo

Well if you had that staff in place, you presumably don’t put together the worst lineup imaginable to go behind it

Yeah but he’s still a guy you’d put on the bump in a playoff situation. And with the other four, this fictional staff would have combined on 21 WAR which I would think would still qualify as slightly above average

The sox could have easily had rotation of Rodon, Cease, Lopez, Crochet and Fedde this year had they made better choices

You don’t hate him but now you’re throwing homophobic insults at him, nice. I guess being an ass hole is just your schtick?

That’s some quality gaslighting there. Why you hate Dick Allen so much

Why would I need to provide evidence against the accuser to support my argument that the evidence of thousands of documents along with testimony of fifteen others outweighs the testimony of a single individual? Makes no sense

So now Getz is harassing potential witnesses, resulting in only Clevinger’s friends being interviewed? And the thousands of documents just consist of texts with Clevinger’s bros? Come on, now

According to MLB’s statement: “The comprehensive investigation included interviews of more than 15 individuals, in addition to Mr. Clevinger and the complainant, as well as a review of available documents, such as thousands of electronic communication records.“ So your position is the evidence of the testimony of one individual outweighs the testimony of more than 15 others along with thousands of documents? Seems like one elephant in the room is substantially more massive than the other here

There’s no way to even confirm the identity of the subject of these photos let alone what the sources of those marks were

Iriarte

Okay but what’s that have to do with Holliday

I tend to agree, but OTOH, I suspect his baseball stupidity is contagious, so I could go either way. I am looking forward to the day when there are none remaining from the fabled “core”

I suppose but Robert looked like total dog doo this year

If I were the O’s, I’d have a hard time giving up on the dream of an infield of Henderson, Westburg and Holliday

Moncada has put up a 5 WAR season. You wouldn’t include him, if you could? I believe he was saying they needed to get back a starting pitcher from either trade of Robert or Crochet not that they could trade Crochet for Holliday and starting pitcher

Rrrrriiiigght

To the contrary, by definition, opinion is indisputable. Dispute is related to matters of fact

Seems the entire argument is predicated on them purportedly having had to be persuaded to attend a press conference. That’s a pretty flimsy premise to arrive at “bad teammate”