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QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Dec 13, 2008 -> 04:19 PM) What's the deal with Scott Procter? He was awful and hurt for LA last year, but who knows? Also, Justin Christian would probably be better in center than Owens or Taveras (at least at the plate, don't know about his defense).

Here's the full list: * Joey Gathright, John Bale * Jamie Burke * Joe Nelson * Aaron Miles, Randy Flores, Tyler Johnson * Norris Hopper, Gary Majewski, Matt Belisle * Doug Mathis * Daniel Cabrera, Lance Cormier * Denny Bautista * Ty Wigginton, Reggie Abercrombie * Jonny Gomes * Willy Taveras * Takashi Saito, Scott Proctor, Yhency Brazoban, Angel Berroa * Clay Hensley and Charlie Haeger * Chris Britton and Justin Christian * Tim Redding * Chris Capuano * Kevin Cash * Chuck James * Chris Burke, Robby Hammock, Wil Ledezma, Jeff Salazar I'd really like to see Capuano/Cabrera come in and compete for a starting gig. Wouldn't mind Saito or Nelson in the bullpen, either. And possibly Redding or James if they'll take a minor league deal. I'd stay away from most of the position players before (though the Taveras rumors will be inevitable).

Rosenthal says Griffey approved the deal: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8398348...de-to-White-Sox Even though it's not clear where he'll play, I'm excited by the deal since we gave up pretty much nothing of value (if it is Richar and Masset). Richar fell out of favor and Masset gives up too many baserunners. Maybe Wasserman will get another extended look now and can capitalize. Plus if KW spins something else it could work even better.

So I'm watching the Sox game on TV with a friend of mine who isn't a baseball fan. He was wondering about the guy yelling that you can hear on EVERY Sox broadcast, specifically what he's saying and if he's selling something. I always thought he was saying "PRO-grams" but my friend feels differently. As fellow Sox diehards, I figured you all would have to know who I'm talking about and might know what he's saying. I live in AZ so I haven't been to the Cell in a while and don't have up close experience with him. So...any ideas?

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ May 6, 2008 -> 08:17 PM) yeah, the players are obviously not to be held accountable for their poor performance. lol @ blaming the hitting coach for guys that are slumping, that've been in the league for 10+ years i don't care who your hitting coach is, it's the players that have to translate that coaching to the field, and these guys aren't doing it, their poor performance right now is obviously mental as they're pressing too much *because* of the slump, it's most likely making it worse. it has nothing to do with Greg Walker, ffs. If the players are veterans who don't need coaching than why does every major league team have a hitting coach? That's such a simplistic and downright stupid way of putting things and I'm tired of Ozzie, reporters and fans saying that. If you've ever played a sport you know that a coach is there to tell players things that they can't see, because they are inside the slump and can't see their own swing or to gain a bigger perspective. They're supposed to be a trained set of eyes that can see what's wrong and attempt to help the players fix it. Walker clearly is not right for this team and a change needs to be made. Of course, a change won't be made...ever. This team is even more talented and frustrating to watch than last year's so far.

I'm sure this sentiment has been expressed, but I just have to say that I really thought we couldn't get unluckier than we were last year. But apparently the fates were just teasing us by letting us get back in the game, and then blowing it due to relief pitching (again) and bad umpiring. On the upside Swisher and Cabrera looked good, and even Uribe and Crede contributed (though I still wish they were gone). I also wish there was another game tomorrow...oh well.

I don't think Weaver ever played for the Sox did he? I think Kim would be better in the bullpen than as a starter. He only really has two pitches so his stuff didn't translate to starting, but he could still be a good arm in the middle-late innings. He's also still only 29 this season.

Shawn Chacon, Bartolo Colon, Josh Fogg, Freddy Garcia, Byung-Hyun Kim, Kyle Lohse, Rodrigo Lopez, Eric Milton, Tomo Ohka, Russ Ortiz, Odalis Perez, John Thomson, Jeff Weaver, and David Wells. None of these guys have jobs yet and, with Spring Training opening, their price is probably going to go down. Who would you be interested in taking a shot at? If the price is right, I wouldn't mind seeing the Sox give a shot to Colon, Garcia, Kim (in the bullpen, not starting), Thomson, Weaver or Wells. I wouldn't want any of them to take a spot away from Danks or Floyd if those two or pitching well, but if (or when) one of them flops it'd be nice to have a solid backup plan. I especially like the idea of trying Kim in the bullpen, if he'll do it. He was lights out back in his Arizona days and would definitely be worth taking a flyer on as a set-up guy. Thoughts?

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 11:03 PM) Roberts and Bedard are better than Willis and Cabrerra I believe. Give them Gio, Danks, Fields, Richar and another AAAA pitcher. That's retarded. Cabrera's a four time all-star (at age 24) and was one of the top 5 hitters in the NL last year. Willis is a two time all star who had a bad year last year. Bedard has had one solid, complete season and has lacked consistency his entire career. Roberts is a fine player, but not a superstar, and he'll never match his '05 numbers again. Plus he's 5 years older than Cabrera. And Bedard's two years older than Willis. So explain to me again how Bedard and Roberts > Willis and Cabrera.

Just gotta say... Wow, I'm happy about this trade. One of the few in the KW regime that I've immediately thought we've won (the Thome trade immediately comes to mind as another). Quentin's got a great eye, power and bat control and in a couple years could play like Bobby Abreu in his prime. The fact that we didn't give up Danks or Fields or anyone in the upper minors makes it even better. I say stick him in right, Anderson in center (not gonna happen, but a guy can hope) and Dye in left and we finally have a respectable outfield (great defense, good hitting).

Anyone have any more information about this news from whitesox.com? I don't really understand how this works under MLB rules, but I guess the Sox don't really have any reason for keeping him around any more.

I bet the market for him is ON FIRE right now. At least Dave Littlefield's probably beating down the door.

So is Ozzie being ordered to keep starting Owens or does he have faith in the kid? I would have thought that as soon as pods and grinderstad were back Owens would get to know the bench pretty well.

Man I definitely understand why everyone is complaining...Mackowiak was obviously going to lead us back into contention the next couple years. That .270/8 HR/30 RBI he was going to put up next year was the key. Seriously, I understand that everyone liked Rob. I did too. He was fun to watch and a good guy, but he wasn't going to help us win a championship during his current contract and we weren't going to resign him. Maybe Kenny could have gotten more for him, maybe not. We don't know. We haven't talked to anybody who actually had anything to do with any negotiations. But the fact is we don't need older utility players taking away playing time from young guys as we try to figure out who can contribute the next time we contend and who's expendable. Mackowiak was expendable for the same reason that Iguchi was, the same reason that Pods, Erstad, Uribe and Cintron are. They're all solid players who can be assets in the right situation, but they're all also older players and in our situation are not assets. Best case scenario: Dubee and Link contribute at the major league level in 2009. If not, I don't see how we can blame Kenny for trying to get players that could potentially help us then for players that definitely won't. Obviously it would have been great to get Milledge and Pelfrey for Contreras and Dye but that's not the way things panned out at this deadline so it's time to let it go and think about who we have now and figure out whether they're assets or not. Think about happy things everyone: Buehrle, Danks, Jenks....and even better...my fantasy football draft was today!

It's officially Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2956001