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He may of made one decent trade(Evans), but I will stick to my guns that KW is better then Dan Evans. I'd love to see Williams able to work with the payroll that Evans has in LA. Now in Evans defense, he didn't exactly get to spend that money, but still, he has a lot more options then Williams.

KW wasn't at fault for missing out on Byrd. Byrd turned down good money with the Phillies and was holding out for the Braves. The Sox weren't going to get him.

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The problem is, 3 mill is about the cheapest they can sign him for.

Well, I think if we dump Ritchie we need to pick up two guys, and then we at least have some seasoned veterans in the rotation. This way Rauch can ease his way in eventually and their is less pressure on the younger guys like Wright and Garland. We just need some inning eaters that will do a decent job, unless we are going for an ace.

Lol...I don't dislike Oregon State, but Pitt damn near beat Miami. I still remember the year Oregon State kicked the crap out of my Irish.

I think Witesoxfan is hitting it on the head. Many of us were questioning how this move could of been done yesterday. The Giants wanted to dump payroll, and the Sox didn't want to add too much. The whole Konerko thing must not of been true. The Giants wanted prospects and cheap players and the Braves made a heck of a lot better of a deal.

Anderson is out their. I like him more then Daal too. I wouldn't mind just picking up 2 starters from the bottom end of the pile and just seeing what happens. You can always deal them later in the year if needed. Of course, I'll still hold out we can get a good guy via trade. Robert Person is still out their too (LDF pointed this out)

I forgot about Person, he'd be a good pickup too.

Roman...relax a bit. The deal the Braves had was a top young starter who had a 3.60 era or so last season and was 12-6. That wasn't in a full season either. Moss is a better pitcher then Ortiz, imo or will be and they also got a top prospect from the Braves. The only similar deal we could of offered was PK and a prospect straight up for Ortiz or Wright or Garland and something like Brian West. We'd of been nuts to do either of those, imo. KW never turned down that Liefer deal.

They are still looking at things. I think they will end up getting someone. The thing is, now all that is left is a real blockbuster like Colon or Vazquez or settling on a free agent or dealing for a lesser commodity like Ponson(I happen to like this guy a lot)

The Braves had a much better offer on the table, imo. Those reports aren't true as of yet, that KW turned down that offer. The Braves and Sox were negotiating with the Giants at the same time, the Braves had a much much better deal on the table.

Colon and Vazquez aren't gone yet.

I definately think Ritchie is a better pitcher then last year, but if money is such an issue with the Sox, I would rather have 2 starters then just Ritchie. Of course, maybe I'm wrong and thats not how it will end up.

Ted Turner no longer owns the Braves, AOL does and they have constantly said they will cut payroll. They want it to stay around 80 million, no higher.

Basically if the Sox bring Ritchie back it will cost them 3 million. Am I the only one that thinks the Sox would be better off signing Daal and Valdes and letting Ritchie go at 3 million? They'd get a lefty and righty, both that are decent and wouldn't cost much at all.

I think their is truth that the Sox are the mystery team.

Plus, I think at the money Clemens would want the Sox would have many more affordable options that could put up similar numbers.

Quickly, I'm gonna jot some names down as options still out their... -Omar Daal (FA) -Ismael Valdes (FA) -Roger Clemens (FA) -James Baldwin (FA) -Brad Penny (FLA) -Ryan Dempster (CIN) -Braves Pitcher (ATL) -Sidney Ponson (BALT) -Andy Ashby (LA) -Brian Lawrence (SD) -Livan Hernandez (SF)

Lol, thats a good one :metal

Well, according to the USA Today, the Sox are one of the three teams with the shot at getting Colon. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/20...s-dealing_x.htm Its a decent read. The weird thing is, for the past week, we've heard a slim shot at it, but no major affiliate will report it.

Well, now that I think about it, wouldn't a three deam deal of made more sense? Giants get Moss and Braves Prospect, Braves get Konerko, Sox get Ortiz and Ainsworth. I do think KW will be talking to the Braves. ESPN says Maddux will likely get a ton of money in Arbitration and I can't doubt that.

26 Year Old Sidney Ponson is also out their. Carlos Lee for Ponson would still work, imo. Although, I don't want to give up Carlos Lee.

Is Ismael Valdes all that bad of an option? He seems to be getting a lot less pub then Omar Daal, but if you compare numbers, Valdes may of had the better season. First off Ismael pitched in the American League, and did so in the toughest division in baseball, the American League West. He went 8-12 with a 4.18 era and through 196 innings, making 31 starts, with one complete game. Opponents hit just .257 against him and in his career, they hit .255 against him. Could he of figured things back out? How about signing this guy for like a million bucks. I was always a huge fan of his back in his days with the Dodgers and he's only 29 years old. He doesn't turn 30 until August 21st. Omar Daal 11-9 with a 3.90 era. He made 23 starts and pitched 161.1 innings. Opponents hit just .39 off of him. Career wise they have hit .264 against him. He turns 31 on March 1st and is looking for a long term deal with 3 million a year. Seems to me like the safer bet would be to get Valdes as you wouldn't be tying things up long term.

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