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Hahaja
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That makes a bit is sense.
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Oh and I should caveat - I have no reason to not believe Middleton. Guarantee someone fell asleep in the pen.
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It’s going to end poorly for hahn. No way he survives this season - not even JR will tolerate this.
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It’s unfortunate.
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I remember as well. Pedro had a different tone going back about 6 weeks ago - I call it the, if I am going to go down, I’m going down my way tone. Honestly - if the above is what HAhn said - I really can’t argue the way he responded to those questions. As Tex said - If he were a first year GM I would have gave him kudos for how he handled it. Problem is he has been here like 10 years and the club sucks.
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Keynan Middleton rips White Sox 'no rules' culture
Chisoxfn replied to maxjusttyped's topic in Pale Hose Talk
The bigger question is - why is Grandal here. Pitchers don't like him, he wants to just up and go. All of that is wrong message. Maybe TA has lost it because everyone else doesn't care and now he doesn't know what else to do but go crazy. Note: I'm going to ignore his off the field stuff - cause too much of any teams lockeroom has most of the same issues TA has on that front. -
Keynan Middleton rips White Sox 'no rules' culture
Chisoxfn replied to maxjusttyped's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Is this for real? -
Keynan Middleton rips White Sox 'no rules' culture
Chisoxfn replied to maxjusttyped's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I think you just have to realize - Eloy needs good leaders around him, but he's fine on a winning team. But him and Yoan can't be the leaders, etc. Yoan I think is a bigger issue than Eloy - in the sense that he's got a way larger contract, etc. But I'm fine - if they want to totally clean house on those 2 - totally fine. But they can't possibly rebuild with this same squad - they have to make changes to those having these issues. And I'm not going to pretend as if Gio or others were perfect - none of us know and every single player on the roster is part of the problem for not making enough of a difference. Gio/Lynn - they had enough credibility that if they wanted to set a tone for the pitching staff - they absolutely could. Position wise - I think any of Robert, Moncada, Eloy, Timmy have that ability too - the question is can they or will they. That seems to be a pretty resounding No. And I have no idea what role Abreu played in enabling it or not too (cause clearly for a number of years - Abreu was the #1 guy who had the credibility to drive change and leadership from a positional perspective. Grandal would have also had that ability (at least his 1st year in the org). -
Keynan Middleton rips White Sox 'no rules' culture
Chisoxfn replied to maxjusttyped's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Those quotes make so much sense though - when you ignore things like PFP, its the same as other defensive things - why would you expect them to get better. Why would you expect them to have quality at bats and the worse part is - young players see how veteran(s) act and what they do and don't do and they think that is what they should do. It is horrific and cancerous. -
Keynan Middleton rips White Sox 'no rules' culture
Chisoxfn replied to maxjusttyped's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Getting rid of Ricky was a big issue. Ricky had the respect of every player in that lockeroom. Was he the perfect tacttian, no, but he was a good clubhouse leader. -
Keynan Middleton rips White Sox 'no rules' culture
Chisoxfn replied to maxjusttyped's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Reading between the lines - I think Pedro recognized he failed with some of his recent quotes - almost implied like I let this continue to foster and wasn't doing things my way. This really is a stench that rots deep and its on all of them - but to change a culture, it takes a major movement - one person alone can't do it - goes back to - you have to gut the front office on down and really change the expectation(s) and establish the right tone and deliver a consistent modus of operation around accountability and expectation and when you don't see it - cut guys, send them to the minors, trade them. Even if you lose a few of those trades - they are at the point that they NEED to do this cause the rot is so deep. I also will notate - I have never once said I think this organization needs Ozzie back. However, if there is one thing I think Ozzie is good at - its that he's going to do what he thinks is right regardless (we may not agree with it and there will be plenty of analytical things he'll do that we won't like - meaning he'll ignore them - see Timo hitting in 3 hole) - but I do think he's set an expectation and have no fear benching guys, etc if they don't meet it and really be tough from that standpoint. I could be wrong - but I felt like that was one thing Ozzie did a pretty good job at. Scioscia is actually another guy who might be a good culture changer. Again - analytics not great, but the guy knows how to manage a dugout and he absolutely knows the game of baseball. -
I would be open to this - if we are making deals with a team in a 40 man roster crunch who have strong org's. Maybe you get something of better value just given the fact that another team is forced to move someone. As long as whomever they are getting a flyer on has upside than I don't necessarily hate the move (worse thing would be literally not spending funds at all).
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Kim Ng: "I called up my man Kenny Williams and got it done"
Chisoxfn replied to HoosierSox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Kenny could always close. -
Im not going to lie - I would gladly acquire him for 2B.
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2023-24 NFL Season Thread
Chisoxfn replied to CentralChamps21's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
Can’t argue it -
That is incredible - don’t ever do it again kid. Looks like he will break his neck.
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This - they use to address obp big time.
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They just don't look like they have it. They have individual talent but the passing and spacing is just awful. Team isn't a team.
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Jared Walsh designated for assignment. He has been dealing with serious health issues - but when he was last healthy he was a real good player - and a left handed bat - something Sox could use.
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I tend to agree. I was a skeptic but the speed of the moves feels like classic Kenny.
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That is what I thought too.