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Interesting.

I suppose the other route is just dumping Williams and something else and seeing if a point guard changed it. I will say Lavine has looked like a different player since the incident. Seems to be getting healthier and back to attacking the hoop vs just settling for jumpers.

Surprise me Chicago and make that deal while taking on escobars contract or some other contract to make it worth the Mets while.

That is more like it.

Sisco, Ardsma, Macdougall…don’t remember who else.

Small price to have 4 years of control though. If he had made an adjustment that unlocked his bat than this is solid. If not - it is 1M which is nothing in MLB.

Yeah - this was a good move at that rate and about what McCann is worth after past few seasons.

Weird McCann would have the Sox on a five team no trade list. I say that because he had his best seasons there. This was what I expected - basically a bunch of money headed to Orioles and presumably the PTBNL is a nobody.

Don't give this rumor any thought. At least not for the names being referenced by the Mets.

Come on - this is clearly a complete and utter BS rumor.

Ball movement when Derozan is on the floor is just non existent. Not sure where San Antonio Demar went but he has to find ways to get out of this pure iso game that happens and get movement and engagement.

I am not surprised - but I still think Derozan is a black hole on offense and I think part of why Lonzo was so important was him having the ball and swinging it meant the rest of the Lavine and Derozan were involved. I don’t blame either but it is clear Derozan and Lavine together don’t work unless coaching and them agree on making a change.

The only way McCann makes sense is as a salary dump / shifting of bad contracts where you feel a change of scenery helps. McCann as a major piece in any deal is non-sensical. He has negative value (just as Grandal & Leury have negative value and probably Joe Kelly too) for that matter). Now if it was McCann and Escobar for Leury and Grandal - I suppose that is cost neutral for Sox, that said - I don't quite know why Mets do it, unless they are just betting more on Grandal (or there is something I'm not aware of tax wise that this seemingly equal contract swap somehow helps them). With that said - the Mets have a young catcher who could be an attractive get in a package. Note: I realize Leury for McCann is a move that the Mets would make all day long (plus a prospect) - but if the Sox were willing to take on that kind of money, why not just sign a Conforto or someone else to a 1 yr deal with club option or something else (I get it isn't a complete wash) but that is a significantly better move than any view that involves McCann adding to payroll (and I haven't figured out a view where you get McCann in a neutral way that makes sense from a Mets perspective).

And yet avi in CF is nowhere close to the equivalent of Sheets or Vaughn. Heck - Rob Mackowiak in CF was not even bottom 3 of horrendous defensive decisions this regime has made. They regularly show an utter disregard for defense.

It is I think important to understand whether his 2022 was him breaking down and we'll see more detioriation or is there more left in there. I won't pretend to know the answer, but he was pretty darn consistent (in a good way) offensively from 2019-2021 and than just fell of a cliff in '22.

This would be an upgrade and create better overall depth.

With AD going down on the Lakers (but showing he's been back to MVP type form) - I feel like now is a good time to move one of DDR / Lavine to the Lakers. Get Westbrook and picks back and start the refresh. If there is someone young on the Lakers they want - fine by me. But lets start making changes. Than just play the young guys and maybe even look for some buy low candidates (ala how others got benefited on Bulls selling low on Lauri/Carter Jr). Not sure if there are any - but this needs to be a get as many assets and future picks as you can. I'm not saying build through the draft - but I am saying hit a hard reset and start over. Than you have those picks to use via draft or to acquire or whatever. And hope and pray that with all that extra opportunity Williams, Ayo, White - one if not two actually show some signs of being productive NBA players.

Exactly - Lonzo probably isn’t coming back and if he is it isn’t the Lonzo of old. How Lonzo made everything that much better I don’t know but I do know they need to blow this up and hope the lottery balls work there way and start over.

If Sox are taking on Escobar and Mcann I would think they are giving up Grandal or something….otherwise can’t imagine they are just taking on that much payroll just to dump Leury.

Swanson is a solid move.

Would the Mets trade Fransisco Alvarez? Not sure his glove is very good. But with Benitendi signed and knowing they were looking at Murphy I am curious whether 2B or C is next move we see.

Yeah - I would like them to follow this up by making a nice trade for a cost controlled guy that fills a need. Lowe, Ketel Marte, Chisholm…go back and give up some prospects and make one more big move. I will caveat risk with any of them given the cost. Or JR could just spend a bit more - give Segura a 1yr deal and use the minor league chips for something else / hold on reserve for deadline. Not saying Segura is super splashy either. But he is solid and adds versatility.

You are right - I am assuming Robert and Anderson are more like where they were than last year. Robert is hard cause he went from straight up elite to below avg almost instantly which was hard to understand (and the minors seemed to imply well above avg). Now maybe his horrible injury two years ago was why - or maybe it was the vision issues and nagging injuries. Moncada is good, TA is solid, Robert gets back to above avg, corners are solid…that is all much better than what they got. To your point maybe that doesn’t happen. We will see what they do at 2B and I guess I am just thinking 1B isn’t that important and it wasn’t as if Abreu was elite there. Long story short - defense should be better and has a shot to be much better. I can’t see it be worse, but man it would really suck if Robert ended up a crap defender after flashing gold glove stuff early in his career.

At the very least - DDR and Vuc have to go. I would do those two in seperate trades (get firsts or young players) and than trade Lavine for Westbrook and picks. I would also likely deal Caruso but don’t care either way. Play White and Williams a s%*# ton and hope one or both somehow shock us. Ayo too. Hope lottery balls go in our favor for once.

The Bulls have to blow this all up soon right?