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The National narrative is the opposite - the national narrative is the Bears have given Fields nothing and all of the issues go beyond Fields and he basically has zero chance. The truth is somewhere in between. Games 1-3 - it was a lot on Fields; Game 4 - I'd say Fields was better (still wouldn't say good) - but a lot of parts around him were just a disaster.

I didn’t watch yesterdays game so watched more highlights last night and today of his misses (not his makes) and wow at the amount of them that he had zero chance or his teammates completely wet the bed. First few games - I saw a lot on Fields - this looked like a better Fields but everything around him was utter s%*#. Whether guys dropping good balls or mustipher completely wetting the bed etc. Not saying Fields was great but there was progress…there was also complete s%*# play around him. Oh and Jenkins was a monster.

I enjoyed the 1st season of ALl of Us Are Dead. Just saw where there will be a Season 2.

Signing Correa would be a-okay in my book. Dude didn't have his best season and put up 5 WAR. The defense also upgrades across the board - presuming Tim or Yoan is okay with it (cause one of them has to pivot). Doesn't solve the righty dominant lineup issue but shoot - team is a heck of a lot better. Only issue with Carlos is he seems to miss time almost every season (so in that case he'd fit right in). But man - a year ago he was a 7 WAR player (and if I round up one year of 6.7 - he basically has 3 seasons of 7 WAR production). Dude instantly becomes best player on the Sox.

I don’t know how engaged Kenny is or isn’t this days - but he is and always will be 10 times the GM Hahn ever was. But like Paxson with Bulls my impression is KW has other priorities Vs day to day of White Sox and focus on talent development.

Let it burn to finish - no mercy - they need to clean house - front office on down.

I really don’t see Tony returning. So the real question is whether Hahn and Kw are back or if only one of them are back. I think 95%+ no Tony, 75%+ odds brand new mgr (ie no Cairo), 30% one of KW/RH gone, 10% all of the above are gone. That to me is what we watch for and the intrigue of the offseason significantly increases as more change happens.

This sounds super cool - especially since this is a test and not a real situation where if we failed it means the end of the world

Bochy would be awesome.

I was pissed - I was planning on going to a game on saturday and was hoping he'd get to 699 and I'd be a vulture at the next games. Had to be electric to be there live.

As much as I have come to expect anything out of this org - there is zero chance Tony is back. I mean oh my goodness if he is back. Quite frankly - I am really really interested to see what happens over the next few weeks. I think Nigtengale had said at different times - if the Sox didn't win, it wasn't just Tony that would be the fall guy and now I'm really really interested to see what happens. If nothing else - Tony can go down as health related and than JR can do TLR a solid by dumping Hahn (with KW retiring) and laying the blame on Hanh. I could care less - as I will support whatever it takes for there to be a changing of the guard in Chicago - top to bottom. Of course they'll follow it up by hiring Getz, which he could be the next Theo himself but if whomever they hire is from this org - I literally want nothing to do with them by default.

Honestly - I am happy they are fading now. Gets rid of Hanh / Kw's excuse. They need a full restart when it comes to coaches and front office. Get rid of the inwardly focused nature of this franchise. They wouldn't know what a good franchise was if it hit them in the head. They are so past the times and completely oblivious to what real franchises do, including how they spend their money and what true talent development and analytics looks like. They are 10 years behind in the times and that is the legit truth.

They made it easy on me - I was planning on heading down and staying in San Diego for the final series of the season and just cancelled my hotel. Not going to waste my money on a hotel to go down and watch this squad play (nor do I want my little league kids watching this team play baseball the way it does). I personally am glad they are melting down at the end - ownership better be seeing this and completely clean house. I want to see a full change - including the bringing in of a complete outside, highly respective person to take over the organization and give it a top to bottom clense. I don't expect it to happen - but it needs to happen. I think with a really good front office person who can give that clens, we could see really great things happen and fast with this franchise. The inward, extremely loyal nature of this franchise is completely getting in the way. I'm not even going to mention the money cause it really isn't about the money - except for their inability to spend on deep analytics departments and put more money in scouting. Go cheap on the roster by $5M and ensure you have a top notch front office, coaching staff, scouting and developmental programs in place (and throughout the minors and into the majors). That $5M is worth 100 Leury Garcia's.

I am throwing the accuracy out the window because this was about the first time I have seen him ever play like this (from an accuracy perspective). Mitch on the other hand was always missing guys open down the field - I don't feel like I have ever seen Fields have a game like today (from an accuracy perspective) so I don't want to hold that against him. It really is all about the decision making to me - because he has shown he can make NFL throws and has the arm strength and speed. What I haven't seen is someone who can just stack play after play together and at times take what the offense gives until you have that shot to go for the dagger and than use that to crush opponents.

He would have had another 25-30 yards if Fields didn't airmail an interception when Kmet was wide open down the middle of the field.

The one saving grace is Tua looked horrible for 1.5 years+ and now hasn't looked that bad. Part of his issues were injuries but he also took some time, so I have to remind myself for someone who had it so easy because they could rely on pure athleticism and a good arm (as Fields could) that the learning curve was going to be steeper in the NFL where you can't just rely on that pure uncanny ability and this is forcing him to humble and truly develop. I kind of say the 1st quarter of the season is about him figuring things out and just playing - than the 2nd and 3rd quarters have to be about showing real strides and becoming a solid QB; Than final quarter of the season should reinforce those believes that you are / can be the guy to build around or...to show you aren't and than the Bears know that heading into '23.

I agree - I am starting him all year though. Either he makes major progress and shows it or you are moving away at the end of the year. Odds right now are moving away from him at end of the year but he has talent - his weaknesses are just glaring when it comes to decision speed.

I think they need to know - in our out - we are in complete agreement here. And they are in full rebuilding mode anyway. Quite frankly Mitch wouldn’t have been as big of a deal either but they followed him up but giving away the farm for Mack which meant Mitch had to be the guy. And I still say - If fields somehow learns to play fast (you can just see he spends so much time thinking vs reacting) and he’ll break through. I am not betting whether it happens or doesn’t - but it should be real clear for the coaches to see whether he can get to that point or not this year. And the whole goal this year should be around giving him the opportunity to prove he is or isn’t the guy (don’t hide him to just delay the inevitable).

And this is happening with them actually having a good rushing attack.

I will say - I have never noticed bad accuracy so this seems more like a today thing - but consistently he hasn’t been able to play decisive and read the d and make plays on time. That isn’t unique to a rookie qb but that was always what he struggled with in college and thus far he doesn’t look any better. Today it is the usual from decision making - but his accuracy has been putrid. The pick he threw in first half was an easy 25 yard gain to Kmet. That pick to Mooney just now - horrendous throw but also horrible decision.

But the biggest thing to me is - he clearly has shown zero ability to break down the d and take plays in front of him and play with real deciciveness.

He looks terrible though and I have said that every week so far this year.

We either want to know he sucks or see something special. I don’t want someone in between that makes it hard. He keeps this up he is making it easy but I’d like to see a stellar 2nd half.

All right - it’s about time for Justin Fields to have a total splash game. Something like a 5 TD type of performance with 359 yards passing etc.

Never thought I would say surgery is a good thing - but this seems like great news. If they can be patient and this actually fixes things, they should have Lonzo back by turkey day. Would have preferred they figured out this months ago but maybe just maybe he will get things back here. Would be huge cause a healthy Ball would be a huge lift for the Bulls. In meantime - hoping Ayo and Caruso are both healthy and can take advantage of their reps - in particular interested in seeing how Ayo has grown. Even better would be seeing Williams and White with their first healthy offseason take some real huge steps forward too. Not holding my breathe though.