GreenSox

I agree with the OP. Leury can handle SS. Escobar - good lord.

Colome's a good player; they just a high price for him. So far, it's 1.5 WAR and 4 years of control sent away for incoming .2 WAR and 2 years of control. If Narvaez sustains, he would have been a core piece (which basically stands at 4 right now). Colome is not.

Well there's the problem: they aren't winning with their best players either and haven't in over a decade. then again, Seattle got a .852 OPS catcher with 11 homers out of trading Colome.

Sox have to roll double 6s for Rodon, Kopech and Dunning to all hit. But that has a better chance of happening than Rick Hahn making a value trade for a veteran pitcher that doesn't burn the Sox on one end, if not both. As for Jay, I don't get the point, but I suppose they could flip him if things go well.

There's no reason to believe that Colome will be good in perpetuity. Sell high and trade him.

This staff is not for want of trying. Well in the loose sense of trying - they did something. Rick Hahn traded for Nova and Baneulos. He signed Santana. This staff is a product of Hahn and his team's eye for veteran talent. It's as bad as 2016 signings, but that team of course had Sale and Quintana.

In terms of Sox managers in the JR era, I would probably rank him 4th behind LaRussa, Torborg and Guillen. Maybe behind Manuel. That's not to say he's good, but as long as he lays off the bunting, I've seen worse. And in terms of current White Sox staff, I see Cooper, Hahn, Haber and perhaps Hostetler (TBD) as bigger anchors. And KW if he's still intimately involved.

He didn't have them in January as a top 10, so I wouldn't think he would now.

Well are the ample teams making ample offers? If so, trade him.

I'm mildly surprised, and frankly pleased, that we haven't heard about Alonso's great clubhouse presence and his righteous service as a role-model to young players.

My guess is that part of Hahn's case to JR for the "friends and family" approach is that they were still getting good players even if Machado didn't sign. To that end, the hope was that Alonso would have a good year and that they would play him enough so that his option would vest. He could be used next year as a bridge between Abreu (whom I don't think they wanted to extend; otherwise, he would be extended) and Collins or whomever. That way they wouldn't have to worry about trading for or signing a 1B next year. But plans change, and no way do they let that option vest off of this performance. By playing Alonso every day, he couldn't be traded even if he had a good year because the acquiring team would be on the hook for the option. The Sox may be willing to overpay him because their payroll is small anyway - but it would be a problem for a contender. If the plans were to flip him, they would have played him sparingly so that an acquiring team would be able to use him during the last 2 months.

Hahn won’t sign any quality real free agents. But what he will do is trade for veterans, primarily those with one-two years left until free agency who had fluke years. That’s what he did the last time, he has no sense that it failed so miserably ( after all he was rewarded for that failure) so will likely do it again. In fact, he did a taste of that last offseason. He’ll only trade second-tier prospects but they will suddenly blossom into first tier once they get on another team

I hope it does paralyze them and they stop making trades for veterans. They got virtually nothing from those vets and overpaid for each. They are exceptionally bad at it. They weren't getting a Sale no matter what had happened or happens, unless they got exceptionally lucky. But with an infield of Anderson, Tatis, Moncada, Semien, and Escobar, they could have traded for another OF or 2 and they could have still had Avi. Montas and Bassit are viable ML starters. BTW, the Eaton and Peavy trades were fantastic. Samardzija and Frazier trades were not. But they followed the age old mantra: when something works, stop doing it. When something fails, keep doing it.

So now we get to see Jon Jay, the product of a Rick Hahn contrivance....easier to put on a clown show than to do serious GM work. And, indeed, Hahn payed a high price for Colome. Narvaez has a 1.2 WAR (and multiple years of control) v. .3 for Colome. Narvaez is also #7 in pitch framing (McCann is far down on the list). In fact, a couple of other Rick Hahn cast-offs are well ahead of McCann in framing.

You could add Semien, Tatis, Escobar, Montas, Bassit, Devenski had they not traded for veterans from 2011- Spring 2016. . In fact, I'd say they could be WC contenders right now.

Day 3 is my favorite day to follow. Just turn it on in the background while I'm doing work and hear a bunch of "Pittsburgh Pirates select number 574921, redraft ..." Occasionally a name pops up that I'm familiar with and I listen closely to the Sox pick.

Leury/Tilson/Cordell won't cut it on a contender. They won't cause harm necessarily so you may be able to live with them. Bad starting pitching does cause harm and you can't contend without 5 good starters. The Sox have 1, with another 1 or 2 passable half the time. The also lack real impact bullpen arms...most of these guys can pitch a clean inning against the Royals, but dousing a rally against the Astros or Twins is another question.

My only objection is that the guy they picked in the 2nd round is not of such value that you should pay overslot. Pay overslot for guys you pick after where their talent warranted.

I guess they are taking absolutely no chances that they can't get these guys for 10K. But they should be able to do better than this.

Can't they at least find a senior who is decent?

I understand paying over-slot to Dalquist and Beard, but Thompson was picked ahead of most projections.

Not with Thompson.

Like this pick.

The problem is prying a player from a Baton Rouge suburb away from LSU. People down here act like that place is a mecca.

Ordonez, Konerko, Durham, Crede, Foulke, Rowand, Buehrle, Baldwin, Marte... a lot of all star level talent. Plus they had players who people thought would be good but didn't turn out (that will happen with many on the current list) as well as filler similar to Tilson, etc.