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Cordell has 1 walk in 30 at bats and has struck out 1/3 of the time. I know his BA is high, but is that sustainable in the majors? AAA has a ton of AAAA pitching. Tilson, Delmonico and Mendick (no spot for him) show some plate discipline. They might as well send down Engel too, unless he's out of options. His bat is insufficient for even a 5th OF at this point. He was rushed, but nothing they can do about that now. Then again, aside from Leury, he's it for CF.

The Indians and their starting pitching. ... good enough to be better than the good lineups and medicore pitching of the As, Twins and Mariners. But if that pitching falters... The NL looks decidedly stronger this year.

I know he's older and on-paper perhaps an org guy, but ....Yermin Mercedes. He can hit.

The Sox are certainly better than the Marlins, Orioles, Royals and Tigers. If they can pitch, they may be better than 1/2 dozen others. I would suggest Delmonico as a replacement for Palka. He can and does take pitches and walks.

Of course control matters and McCann is on a 1 year contract. If there's a crowd they can make a trade. Meanwhile Swihart could play OF. They wouldn't claim Swihart in hopes that he replicates what he did in Boston....they would claim him thinking they could improve him. And he was well-regarded at one point, so perhaps he can be fixed.

With 3 OFs raking in AAA needing an audition, is there a need for Jay at all?

Or they are just trying to analyze a prospect and look at strengths and weaknesses. Speaking for myself, I neither disliked him as a #4 pick nor as a prospect.

Certainly true. Considering he's been on the 25 with a contending team for a contending team for so long, I would have expected some good numbers somewhere....He does walk some. Adam Dunn, without the power. That's all I've got. The only risk in grabbing him that I can see is the lost opportunity cost should Wellington pull it together, have a good year and become moveable in July.

Swihart has a few years of control, but he doesn't look close to decent. Maybe change of scenery would help..maybe.

I'd like to see a few more walks out of Madrigal...he can probably slap-hit anything through an A ball hole, but those holes won't exist in higher classifications. Needs to wait for driveable pitches.

That's what I did and nothing comes up. But when I scroll it, after 30 comes 42 so there's some missing info. Like I said, I take your word for it and stand corrected.

I don't disagree; just hold them until the expiration year when this happens again. Like Colome (although his salary is a good bit less than Robertson's). Better yet, trade the multi year guys in December when teams can budget them. Jones should be affordable if he gets it together.

I'll take your word for it and stand corrected. I ran a search on the webpage and his name didn't come up - it still doesn't.

Rutherford was dropping across the board, though. He's still young and despite his miserable start this year, could still amount to something. Robertson went out on the open market after 2018 and basically received the same contract that he had with the Sox...so while expensive, he wasn't overpaid. I realize that in July, teams have to fit players into their budgets (even if not overpaid per se) but I would call him more than filler. It should have been a priority to move Frazier in December of 2016 off of that 40 homer year.

How are they going to get a top 100 for Herrera when they couldn't get a top 100 for Roberston (2 years control), Kahnle (multi-years control) and Frazier combined. Or if they could only get a Rule 5 guy for Soria?

He wasn't even top 100 at the time. https://www.mlb.com/news/yoan-moncada-tops-2017-midseason-prospect-list-c244152682

I'll still take Narvaez over Colome in a heartbeat. Colome is a decent, not great closer, is not in our window and won't be moved for much, whether this July or next. Narvaez has 4 years of control, has plate patience (a rarity in this org. - probably why he was traded) and can hit. He could also throw runners out. But his "Framing" was a nice red-herring for Cooper and his pitchers.

I've wondered that for a while. My conclusion is on a cursory level at best.

Where do the Sox find these veteran pitchers. Good lord....

You have to find out Palka one way or the other. And Alonso, and his gaudy .619 OPS, would have crowded out Palka, but for Jay's injury. As it is now, he's crowding out Cordell/Delmonico

Sure that's a good player to have around....but not at the price of a top 5 pick. Plus, if all he can do is slap singles in the minors, what are the chances that he can replicate it in the majors?

Great to see a lot of pitchers on that list. Pilkington's a college guy, and I prefer them not linger in low A once they demonstrate that they can command that league.

If he skips, I'd like to see him do it the Thomas way. AAA has a lot of AAAA pitching.

In Kenny's last stand, he traded Escobar for a few months of starter having a bad year; and he traded 2 young pitchers for a mediocre relief pitcher with a dubious background. One of those young pitchers became Chris Devenski, one of the most versatile relievers in baseball. In 2013, the Hahn era begins with a bang by signing Keppinger.....he is the first of Hahn's signings who quit MLB mid-contract (there were 2 others). In December 2014, fresh off of 73 wins, Hahn convinced himself that the Sox could contend, so he traded Yolmer Semien, Phegley (still on the As 25) and others to the As for 1 year of Samardzija. This trade was particularly egregious because Semien had a ceiling much higher than utility player(1). But a month later, Hahn realizes "I don't have a 2B", so he gives Emilio Bonifacio the highest salary of his career. He was waived before the 2015 season ended. The very next year, Hahn traded 2 young pitchers for Brett Lawrie. Lawrie decided to quit MLB mid-season, mid-contract (the 2nd of Hahn's acquisitions to quit the game). Don't look up the stats of JB Wendelkin. The other ongoing theme is Hahn's constant sojourn for relief pitchers. Lots of resources, lots of trades, even using a #1 pick for a relief pitcher. One trade was really clever - getting Soria and Avilan for a rule 5 guy - only to see Soria flipped for a Rule 5 prospect who projects as a LOOGY. (1) The FO refused to trade Samardzija at the deadline (even though he pitched his best game of the year in July against a team desperate for a starter) proclaiming that "a 10 game winning streak is right around the corner." They used the pick to draft a relief pitcher they thought they could rush into the 2016 pen.

There's even less reason now that the season is 2 weeks old....this team is just awful and he won't make a difference.