GreenSox

The Sox aren't the Rays; they aren't the Yankees. They aren't the Padres or Phillies or Twins. They are a heck of a lot closer to the Orioles than to any of those teams. Today is not an anomaly. It's what they are. And it's inexcusable.

That was just wonderful. The relievers we have, good and bad, are going to tire because the best the starters can do is go 6 and that's on a good day. Fulmer is just.....

Then trade for young players with more time left on their deal. Identify players that you can improve. Paying market price plus sending prospects is no way to do business. Sox just aren't that good at regenerating prospects and they don't want to pay market price so they won't extend these guys anyway. Frazier, Samardzija...they didn't get the Sox anywhere.

I agree. Paulie had a lot more capital built up...on several really good teams, 2 playoff teams and a world champion.

Here we go....good lord. He's an okay pitcher, not great, with 2 years left on his deal. "Sign and extend"....we've heard that before and the results are starting for the Oakland As. Sign as a FA if we like him then.

See if Rondon can play some outfield.

i've got you both beat.

Teams make their own smite: no accountability, refuse to use state of the art techniques, friends and buddies instead of top professions.

Looks to me like they are hell-bent on Alonso earning the option so he doesn't hit the open market, so they'll have a 1B next year without having to do any work. There's got to be some reason he's had one whole day off all season.

This is why (there isn't a game thread). Pure torture.

Desperation time...

The opener requires modern thinking. Cooper will have none of it.

On the roster as a whole, yes. But those specific players make serious money and some cost prospects and a young player. Those specific players are expected to produce. With the young guys, it's different.

$40+ million plus 2 prospects and a young catcher is not dumpster-diving. That's serious spending for players who should be productive. 6/7 would be a reasonable expectation. The only one in the dumpster is Hahn.

Ricky mixing and matching down 9-0. Why not let Fulmer get out of his jam?

Fulmer needs a pitch clock. Lord he's slow.

Derek Holland, once he got away from this team, pitched 171 innings last year with over 8 Ks per game. Talent evaluator Rick Hahn decided to trade a prospect for Nova and his 6.4 Ks per 9 and pay him over 9 Million per year. Lazy, lazy, lazy.

Out

Did they even bother to scout him? Serious question. They may be that lazy. After all, Rick Hahn said they liked him 4 years ago with the Yankees. I've wondered who, if anyone, scouted Shields in that last game in Seattle and delivered the okay.

Don't start swinging at that stuff, please

Geeze....nice play I think Delmonico will hit...perhaps not enough to justify his modest defense though

Just trade Colome for Hoerner. He's out-hitting Madrigal by a ton in AA already.

Sox trying to make sure he get Sox trying to make sure he gets vests in that $9 million salary....

Yonder Alonso has had zero days off.

What they had been (recently) was not very good; both were sorely overpaid for their performance. If their recent performance is what Hahn wanted then it's no wonder...