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Burdi was just a ridiculous pick on several levels. Specifically, though was picked to be rushed into the 2016 bullpen....the same thinking that brought in James Shields, and rushed up Fulmer and Anderson. Ahh the resources Hahn wasted trying to save 2016, which had no chance to be saved.

Seems reasonable. I measure Astros/Cubs from when Luhnow/Theo took over. Astros had done some disbursing prior to Luhnow, though. I think the Cubs were pretty much trying to win, but just sucking anyway.

I'm a Tulane season ticket holder (the "Green" in my name) and go to about 1/2 the games and Hoese is sensational. I will caution this though. Tulane's schedule this season is unusually weak (usually play LSU twice, e.g. - not this season) and we have faced some really bad pitching. We start playing the better conference teams beginning next week, and that will provide more insight. Bad pitching or not, he can rake...but whether he can hit at FRD level, we'll see.

What is a timeline for measuring the success of a rebuild? Rebuilds are fluid. Some take 10 years. Personally I would measure it on the Astros-Cubs timeline: 3 years, and this is year 3. Astros/Cubs had some luck, and the Sox had a jumpstart. 3 years falls in between the Royals/Pirates timeline (a decade - of course they were just sucking more than rebuilding during that time) or the Brewers/Rays (2 years).

Another org minor leaguer who is doing well is Evan Marshall, Counselor at Law. He had a great spring and it's continuing through Charlotte. He's spit the bit his 2 brief turns through the majors. But it looks like it will be a steady train back and forth from Charlotte with relief pitchers. My man Mercedes continues to rake for Birmingham. If he can hit like this (big IF, I know), it's not like the Sox are stacked at DH.

Fulmer was the year before. Substitute Burdi for Fulmer for the June 2016 dog and pony show.

Right - and if you won't do it with a 4 run lead against the woeful Royals...

Nova pitching like his stats from last year suggested he should. Bullpen all messed up... Ricky needlessly pitching Colome for the third day in a row on Tuesday didn't help.

Cordell has 1 walk in 30 at bats and has struck out 1/3 of the time. I know his BA is high, but is that sustainable in the majors? AAA has a ton of AAAA pitching. Tilson, Delmonico and Mendick (no spot for him) show some plate discipline. They might as well send down Engel too, unless he's out of options. His bat is insufficient for even a 5th OF at this point. He was rushed, but nothing they can do about that now. Then again, aside from Leury, he's it for CF.

The Indians and their starting pitching. ... good enough to be better than the good lineups and medicore pitching of the As, Twins and Mariners. But if that pitching falters... The NL looks decidedly stronger this year.

I know he's older and on-paper perhaps an org guy, but ....Yermin Mercedes. He can hit.

The Sox are certainly better than the Marlins, Orioles, Royals and Tigers. If they can pitch, they may be better than 1/2 dozen others. I would suggest Delmonico as a replacement for Palka. He can and does take pitches and walks.

Of course control matters and McCann is on a 1 year contract. If there's a crowd they can make a trade. Meanwhile Swihart could play OF. They wouldn't claim Swihart in hopes that he replicates what he did in Boston....they would claim him thinking they could improve him. And he was well-regarded at one point, so perhaps he can be fixed.

With 3 OFs raking in AAA needing an audition, is there a need for Jay at all?

Or they are just trying to analyze a prospect and look at strengths and weaknesses. Speaking for myself, I neither disliked him as a #4 pick nor as a prospect.

Certainly true. Considering he's been on the 25 with a contending team for a contending team for so long, I would have expected some good numbers somewhere....He does walk some. Adam Dunn, without the power. That's all I've got. The only risk in grabbing him that I can see is the lost opportunity cost should Wellington pull it together, have a good year and become moveable in July.

Swihart has a few years of control, but he doesn't look close to decent. Maybe change of scenery would help..maybe.

I'd like to see a few more walks out of Madrigal...he can probably slap-hit anything through an A ball hole, but those holes won't exist in higher classifications. Needs to wait for driveable pitches.

That's what I did and nothing comes up. But when I scroll it, after 30 comes 42 so there's some missing info. Like I said, I take your word for it and stand corrected.

I don't disagree; just hold them until the expiration year when this happens again. Like Colome (although his salary is a good bit less than Robertson's). Better yet, trade the multi year guys in December when teams can budget them. Jones should be affordable if he gets it together.

I'll take your word for it and stand corrected. I ran a search on the webpage and his name didn't come up - it still doesn't.

Rutherford was dropping across the board, though. He's still young and despite his miserable start this year, could still amount to something. Robertson went out on the open market after 2018 and basically received the same contract that he had with the Sox...so while expensive, he wasn't overpaid. I realize that in July, teams have to fit players into their budgets (even if not overpaid per se) but I would call him more than filler. It should have been a priority to move Frazier in December of 2016 off of that 40 homer year.

How are they going to get a top 100 for Herrera when they couldn't get a top 100 for Roberston (2 years control), Kahnle (multi-years control) and Frazier combined. Or if they could only get a Rule 5 guy for Soria?

He wasn't even top 100 at the time. https://www.mlb.com/news/yoan-moncada-tops-2017-midseason-prospect-list-c244152682

I'll still take Narvaez over Colome in a heartbeat. Colome is a decent, not great closer, is not in our window and won't be moved for much, whether this July or next. Narvaez has 4 years of control, has plate patience (a rarity in this org. - probably why he was traded) and can hit. He could also throw runners out. But his "Framing" was a nice red-herring for Cooper and his pitchers.