GreenSox

Amen!

You are correct - Adolfo was in his honorable mention. I'll say Kopech is the omission, because he's not in the minors. Could be Madrigal - he had him ranked #11 in the draft.

$4 million? They paid him twice what he's worth. Heck he made $3 mill in 2018 and was terrible...now he gets a 33% raise.

You're confident in the burner account package? Regardless, all have talent. No reason to move Rivera...middle infielders are scarce, which is why orgs like the Dodgers stockpile them. I'm pretty sure Minaya, Cordell and Madeiros won't be on the next playoff team....2 of those guys came for 2 excellent relievers so they should work.

Maybe they do..but again, why do what is essentially a rent now? If the Dodgers will take some probable AAAA guys off the 40 man, then fine. But that won't happen...the Sox will deal upside. Or trade Colome for him...that would be okay.

Why trade assets for a 2 year player when they have zero chance to win in that window? Not that they have much of a chance right now with Machado...but at least one construct an "if everything goes right" argument. They've got OFs on the way.

Shouldn't they at least wait to sign Machado before trading assets for Pederson?

Of course the value of being teammates with workout buddies is for 1 season.

Hahn droning on and on about his effort and the value of just being at the table for "premium talent" seemed to me like he's trying to soften the landing in case we don't sign him; not that we wouldn't sign him. I hope.

That's fine if, in the end, the Sox are willing to match the top offer +20% or so. But if they aren't and/or if, say, they are using Alonso and Jay, instead of cash, as the premium, then I suspect that this will not end well.

No, but he doesn't need to grovel for effort credit either.

Yep - six years and counting...

Give Hahn his participation trophy.

Pederson with Machado is questionable; but to trade for him while not signing Machado is just inane.

That's good because a 3 way would mean that the Sox for sure would be giving up prospects. They probably would anyway, despite have the leverage advantage, but if the Marlins are involved, they definitely would. If they take Hill, they should get Pederson and Hill for basically nothing; but that's not what this FO does.

That's just remarkable. This is the kind of stuff that really explains the current situation. Lack of investment (money/time/coaching talent) in the fundamentals.

This is a more reassuring list. 4 in the top 30 is pretty nice. Sox just lack nuance...first it's tools, then it's college bats. As for Burdi, he was picked for the 2016 pen - I would assume the Sox would have been nowhere near him but for living in la la land in June, 2016.

That's not great after all this. I hope the reality is better.

He's got a point...at some point it's results, not the good ole college try, that matter. Of course it would be nice to know what the Sox offer was.

That was the perception, but the WHIPs and K rates were basically identical and Mussina played only 2 more years (but a lot more innings).

I'm surprised Halladay is getting that high vote %; he really wasn't better than Mussina and Mussina struggled to get in. Glad to see those 4 make it.

Now he's an older vet who has maintained a consistently good OBP (in contrast to.....). Much better buy at $6 million.

Jay was OBP .330, .678 OPS last year. But he did have one season in his last 4 with an OBP of an acceptable .340 or more and he's only 33 so I'm sure he'll improve. He should definitely get the at bats on this rebuilding team.

They had to fix the delivery (why draft a player whose delivery you have to fix is another question). Stopping work on the delivery was/is the mistake. When Hahn trades some secondary vet or a salary dump for a "nothing" prospect and that prospect turns out to be top 5, then he can get a break on Tatis. People can rightfully fear any prospect with upside that he trades will end up biting them...especially when he trades them for players not in the Sox competitive window.

No kidding. But that's about what the Sox should pay for a player not in the window of contention. Trading prospects, trading young pitching for a player who won't help the Sox contend? Good lord, lessons never learned.