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I hope they don't lose anyone, esp. considering the AAAA fodder they protected on the 40. They could pick a reliever, but they have a ton of equivalent guys on the 40. Same with 4th/5th OFs. I doubt they pick anyone.

The Sox should be open and up front with them about their plans while recruiting them. And the plan is that they have about 10 grade A prospects who will be matriculating in the next year or 2, and another 10 grade Bs and with that they will forge a winner hopefully starting in 2020. And if they trade Abreu, they will explain to them why they did it. These guys aren't signing here to win next year. Or put another way, if winning next year is a priority for them, they aren't signing with the White Sox.

I don't see what difference it makes. He's a 1 year player. Trade him if value is offered. Sox are still in that mode, and will be (or should be) for the next year. Sox aren't going to be any good next year, regardless of Harper/Machado.

This belongs more in the "Creative trades" thread, but I couldn't find it. Anyway, for my money, the 2018 Sox pitcher of the year was Jayce Fry. He's got 4 or 5 pitches. Kd a lot of guys; excellent WHIP. Reminds me a lot of MB - he throws that filthy stuff could be a really good control lefty. I hate trading good pitching. But I'm a sell-high and buy low guy. The Cubs need a lefty reliever...the only one they have is the Chef, Justin Wilson and he's pretty awful. So to that end, Jayce Fry for Ian Happ.

I thought that was a different Jordan. Yes, Jordan Guerrero

Even if I bought a Yankee stadium excuse (which I don't ) that's still a bad trade. Stephens is one of our better pitching prospects (I know the cw is that this org is replete with pitching, but it isn't). Yolmer is a very viable utility player. Sox are in no position to trade any talent for 1 year players.

For 1 year of Gray and his 1.5 WHIP and 4.9 ERA? Gray is a salary dump.

2 years of control. That certainly fits the window of contention.

Any of those except for Grandal would be okay. But only do a couple. Grandal would be terrible.

Agree. The Sox really can't start trading prospects because they don't know what they have yet.. Take CF - 3 good prospects, but they don't know which will be good (and their track record on evaluating such things isn't the best).

He's had one good year; otherwise, he is Leury et al.

We have utility infielders.

Career .294 OBP. Enjoy, Twins.

If you don't get 6-8 viable young major leaguers, you will be in perpetual rebuild no matter what veterans you go after.

Mostly stunted prospects to Az..but we'll see.

yes, please

And they wasted a first round pick on Burdi for that reason. A lot of resources were torched to fuel the last gasps of Hahn's 2016 dog and pony show.

Perfect

Righteous bucks.

I think pretty much every trade Hahn's made, outside of the big 3, has been lacking. Rutherford was a good primary piece, but the rest were guys in the low minors (which is fine) who were about to time out (not fine).

Yolmer out WARed Seager last year. Seager could be a real albatross; but to get Haniger, I would do the above, but no more (and I seriously doubt Seattle would go for that). Haniger looks about like Nick Swisher when the Sox traded for him.

Except that Colome was traded last summer and didn't net that much. And look at what we got for Soria - rule 5 Madeiros who hasn't shown a thing.

Chapman trade was an anomaly. July trade for a team trying to win a W.S. Mariners didn't get hosed at all.

Will Colome be better than David Robertson? For Robertson, the Sox got a player at the bottom of the top 100 plus Rule 5 throw-wins and that's with adding Kahnle (having a terrific year) and Frazier. And then look at what Seattle had to trade to get him (and Spann). Not that much.

Kelenic and Dunn are top 50-100 prospects; does "excellent" really overstate that? Kimbrel went for 2 25-50 prospects; he had a far greater track record of dominance. Doesn't seem that out of whack to me. On a side note, the Padres GM did a nice bit of arbitrage with Kimbrel and has done a good job of undoing the bad moves he made in his first year. I don't know whether he can build a team, but he can acquire prospects.