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And Baretto and Fowler aren't even hitting yet. Trienen's an older pitcher who was part of the Madsen/Doolittle package and as soon as he hits Oakland, he's better than both of them.
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I would suggest just cutting Santiago, but that would upset the Tankers.
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Plus that 3B depth also was a big piece to obtain Gerrit Cole.. If the Astros want Abreu, i would guess they see something they think they can fix unless it's just purely a matter of thinking they can get him on the cheap.
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No time for one anyway, when you have only 10 days left to show him off and sell.
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The difference between what the Padres got and the Mets got, for pitchers who are not that dissimilar in production, is just stunning, even factoring in the control
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I don't know whether Riley is "the guy", if he's obtainable (I certainly wouldn't think for Fry alone), but the Sox need to start building a major league team and they need a 3B.
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Cutting one-sided deals for vets is not Luhnow's m.o....he pays fair prices for veterans on the trade market. Now you aren't going to get his best prospects ...but that farm system is extremely productive and with careful scouting, Hahn and his scouts should be able to find what they need in the form of ascending, although as yet unranked, prospects. I'd love for Hahn to trade with the Astros.
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Fry is a tough sell because he's more valuable to the Sox than Kahnle was, but not as valuable to other teams in the July period as Kahnle was either. Fry is younger, under more control and doesn't have Kahnle's history of being terrible such that there's a less chance Fry is a flash in the pan. Two months ago, I suggested that the Sox consider trading him. Consider. The emergence of Soria as a legitimate trade piece makes trading Fry less enticing.
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What player are yall talking about here?
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FS: Have the Sox ever had a prospect like Eloy in AAA?
GreenSox replied to NorthSideSox72's topic in FutureSox Board
Yes, like Norm Cash; Sox in the Series in 67 with Norm. Re the question, I seem to recall Lamar Johnson being minor league beast - but not a 50 homer beast; pretty good couple of major league seasons as well. -
You can obviously win picking either high school or college. That the Sox are emphasizing college players is Williams and Hahn's choice. I'm still surprised that the scouting director, and not the persons in charge of player personnel, actually make the picks. If you don't put the resources into scouting and evaluation you are better off picking college players....they have more form and less information asymmetry. If you scout and evaluate better than the competition, you are better off picking high school guys...have more information than the competition and have an edge.
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Tilson never hit much in the minors, though. Not much basis to think he can hit in the majors. 19 minor league homers in 1900 at bats, et al. Cordell did. He's just been injured virtually his entire tenure with the Sox.
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I doubt Avilan or Cedeno add much quality to the return package. To do it, you'd have to start moving Fry, Davidson, Leury, Narvaez, or Yolmer..one of those guys. I'm not sure it makes sense to do so for another A ball prospect...for a near major league ready pitching, CF, 3B prospect, it very well could.
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I like the idea of moving Davidson or a similar player...time to shuffle these prospects around and build a team. And if the Braves think that's a fair trade, well then I wish them godspeed in getting it done.
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Tilson hit his way back to Charlotte 2 months ago. Somebody just likes him - probably Reneteria. Hasn't really mattered as Leury and Delmonico have had injury spells. But when Avi gets healthy, enough is enough. Let Leury play CF
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Can always use pitching. And some of these deep teams have AAA excess that could help the Sox...that's basically what the Pirates got from Houston for Cole (not that the sox have a Cole to trade).
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Omar's OPS is .771 and rising; he is under 4 years of control. That's a higher OPS than Flowers ever had for the Sox and higher than AJ had except for 1 year. He walks like a maniac. What exactly are people looking for? And if they trade him...what are they going to get. An org's #19? To what end?
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Save Omar! 2nd highest OPS on the team. One of the few Sox that takes a walk in an organization that has been walked-challenged for over a decade. The Sox signed several reclamation projects..unfortunately, most didn't reclaim.
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That's what the Sox would be doing even if Forsythe could play; Sox neither need nor should want a veteran. Trade for him and then cut him. Take the prospect.
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I'd like to see him go to an AL team....bleed the farms of other AL teams.
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.340 range or higher; and .360+ if he's going to be an all star level player.
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1)I never hear/read anything about the analytics department. And I never really hear about how they might use analytics in evaluating or in scouting opponents) other than their shifting, which I suppose is an analytics thing. I hope you are correct in that. 2)Getz is new and early reports are positive. Haber is not new. Hostetler is a White Sox lifer, with a short period with another team. The GM lineage has been maintained since the early 1990s when Ron Scheuler was hired. 30 years is a long time. They may get it right this time and I hope to heck that they do. 3)On paper, all looked fine, some better than others. But nothing has popped yet; still plenty of time.
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Good move. He and Davidson should have a reasonable chance of playing an acceptable 1B, given their prior experience at 3B. Nick v. Davidson v. Palka
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I hope they keep Rodon. There is plenty of time to trade him. In the meantime, they need to start building this team up. The Sox should have enough prospects after trading Sale, Q, Eaton and many secondary players. They also had a top 4 pick, and picks in the top 11 for like the last 5 years. Other orgs rebuild their orgs in 2-3 years without the jumps-start. What more does this FO need? Stabilize the pitching and this rebuild should start to take off.
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Do you believe they really did that? FO virtually unchanged; Getz is new and the scouting director is new and a smooth a talker, but also a White Sox lifer (and, of course, they blame the Fulmer pick on the prior scouting director). It goes well beyond Tatis, although that deal brought to a head the ongoing problem of consistently poor talent evaluation, as that was an epic failure on both sides of the swap. Even in the dispersal, so far their have been no diamonds in the rough, whereas the Cubs, Brewers and Astros got several. Maybe the minors will be more productive- they look more productive - but every team has players with good stats in A and AA.