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I can't imagine how the could convince anyone to trade for Longoria.

Plenty Just usually not the ones the crowd likes. And at this point my default position on trades for veterans is usually against, due to the dismal track record of those trades under this FO.

One of them had that stupid Samardzija trade early. All that did was piss me off a few hours before I needed to be.

If the man in charge of building this team actually believes that....and yet, he probably does because Yonder and Jay were the type of players he acquired to "Go for it" in 2016.

Then let's see him do something with Fulmer and Giolito. Sox pitching hasn't exactly been top shelf.

Jones, yes obviously. Colome? Fine. Dunning, Basabe, Micker? Good lord no.

Up the offer, Rick!

Everything on the Dodgers terms, when it should be on the White Sox terms. The Dodgers need to clear out Pederson more than the Sox need him. And the Sox don't need him at all if they don't sign Machado. The Sox have the leverage: use it.

Amen!

You are correct - Adolfo was in his honorable mention. I'll say Kopech is the omission, because he's not in the minors. Could be Madrigal - he had him ranked #11 in the draft.

$4 million? They paid him twice what he's worth. Heck he made $3 mill in 2018 and was terrible...now he gets a 33% raise.

You're confident in the burner account package? Regardless, all have talent. No reason to move Rivera...middle infielders are scarce, which is why orgs like the Dodgers stockpile them. I'm pretty sure Minaya, Cordell and Madeiros won't be on the next playoff team....2 of those guys came for 2 excellent relievers so they should work.

Maybe they do..but again, why do what is essentially a rent now? If the Dodgers will take some probable AAAA guys off the 40 man, then fine. But that won't happen...the Sox will deal upside. Or trade Colome for him...that would be okay.

Why trade assets for a 2 year player when they have zero chance to win in that window? Not that they have much of a chance right now with Machado...but at least one construct an "if everything goes right" argument. They've got OFs on the way.

Shouldn't they at least wait to sign Machado before trading assets for Pederson?

Of course the value of being teammates with workout buddies is for 1 season.

Hahn droning on and on about his effort and the value of just being at the table for "premium talent" seemed to me like he's trying to soften the landing in case we don't sign him; not that we wouldn't sign him. I hope.

That's fine if, in the end, the Sox are willing to match the top offer +20% or so. But if they aren't and/or if, say, they are using Alonso and Jay, instead of cash, as the premium, then I suspect that this will not end well.

No, but he doesn't need to grovel for effort credit either.

Yep - six years and counting...

Give Hahn his participation trophy.

Pederson with Machado is questionable; but to trade for him while not signing Machado is just inane.

That's good because a 3 way would mean that the Sox for sure would be giving up prospects. They probably would anyway, despite have the leverage advantage, but if the Marlins are involved, they definitely would. If they take Hill, they should get Pederson and Hill for basically nothing; but that's not what this FO does.

That's just remarkable. This is the kind of stuff that really explains the current situation. Lack of investment (money/time/coaching talent) in the fundamentals.

This is a more reassuring list. 4 in the top 30 is pretty nice. Sox just lack nuance...first it's tools, then it's college bats. As for Burdi, he was picked for the 2016 pen - I would assume the Sox would have been nowhere near him but for living in la la land in June, 2016.