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QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Oct 11, 2017 -> 08:11 PM) I'll start it off with my suggestion...Maikel Franco from the Phillies. They need pitching and have some infield depth. Wouldn't mind throwing a couple of our pitching prospects at the Phillies if they want to unload Franco. Wouldn't include any of Gio, Lopez, Kopech, Cease, or Hanson though. Who are some young names you'd like to see us acquire for relatively cheap this off season? The White Sox do not have surplus of pitching prospects. They need more actually. This is the time to stockpile pitching (even without a shortage). The Sox are also not short on infielders. Martes, pitcher, Astros, is my candidate.

More likely he doesn't have the stamina for playoff baseball...at least the way he's pitched in the regular season.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 06:32 AM) Yep, with ya on Stanton. I have no interest, period. I know this won't be popular but I'm not interested in Machado either but for different reasons. 3B is brutal on the lower back and combine that with how many years he will get (8-10), I just don't trust he would hold up over the life of the contract at 3B. Now if Machado was willing to play some 1B and hit in the DH spot to give his back days off from diving at the hot corner, I would change my tune for sure. I agree, except that Machado would be nowhere near worth his money if he can't play 3rd (and he really won't be worth it at 3rd either). Stanton, Machado...largely corner-cutting that have a marginal effect on winning (they don't come free), but serve as a comforting salve for some.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Oct 3, 2017 -> 11:13 PM) No we didn't. We offered a very raw, lottery ticket who happened to explode in to a top 5 mlb prospect. That's like saying the Sox one time traded a 60 WAR, 600+ HR monster for an old and washed up George Bell. He was more than a lottery ticket, and he "just happened to explode" such that within 2 months of the trade he was a top 100 prospect and rising fast. The Sox didn't know what they had in Tatis; and they probably didn't really know what they were getting in Shields (how many Sox scouts were in Seattle?). Shouldn't have given a prospect of any sort for Shields- pure salary dump was more than enough.

QUOTE (thedoctor @ Sep 30, 2017 -> 08:43 AM) can Covey start the last two games? He's actually pitched reasonably well recently. I was thinking another go for Pelfrey - used less than 3 innings yesterday, and it would be a shame to end his season with such a confidence-breaking start. He did throw 85 innings in those 2 2/3 innings, so maybe wait til Sunday.

It would help if we'd sit Abreu and Garcia; I'm not sure why they are playing every day, regardless of the need to tank. Detroit is showing teams how tanking is properly done. They aren't even trying.

I think I said this probably on page 2, but yes he hasn't walked much, and his BABIP is high; and for that reason, I doubt the offers will be equivalent to his 2017 production....and ultimately pretty modest. Thus, I think it's worth keeping him and waiting to move him.

No hurry; they have 2 years to move him. And if he builds on this season, they may want to keep him around. It is build up time.

the Sox have a bunch of position players who auditioned this season...many of them look the same. They can bring them all back - most of them earned another year - but who is going to pitch for this organization next year? I wonder if they can't trade a couple for some young 5th starter/bullpen types.

Thank you, Tim!

QUOTE (ron883 @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 06:10 PM) This team looks good enough to compete for the WC or division next year. Indiana have some stats who are aging. Never know what happens in baseball. Sox will also have Kopech and eloy at some point. Rodon/Kopech/Lopez/giolito/ shields or guerrero or Stephens or Adams 1B abreu 2B moncada SS TA/leury 3b Davidson/nicky/yolmer DH delmonico/davidson/abreu RF avi CF leury/engel LF nicky/eloy C: TA/Kevin smith Supersubs yolmer/leury Bullpen - wing it. I think this team will be a pleasant surprise and the Sox very May well have a chance to compete. I notice you omitted the pitching staff....there's your answer.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 10, 2017 -> 06:07 PM) Carson Fulmer was a first round, top ten draft pick selected in between Andrew Benintendi and Ian Happ. I, for one, would very much like to see him develop into something far more than just a reliever. Today's performance was encouraging in that respect. Amen Tankers can root for Pelfrey and Shields and the entire bullpen to get lit up. But today was good.

QUOTE (GermanSock @ Sep 10, 2017 -> 07:43 AM) if you want a hs pick it has to be a fast athletic guy who can play center or shortstop. and for good reason; also need some power potential. I'm more of a volume guy on pitching. Draft a lot of it, but because of the high wash-out rate, I wouldn't use the top few picks on it.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 8, 2017 -> 04:36 PM) 2014, 2015 You and I differ in our definitions of "Good" then. 1.37 peak WHIP with K totals below 7 don't qualify for me.

QUOTE (joejoedairy @ Sep 7, 2017 -> 03:55 PM) Is Petricka done or was this just a bad year due to injuries? Wondering if hes someone they are counting on to be in the bullpen next year. Petricka's been in the majors for 5 years, and has yet to add a season that could be described as good. I guess the Sox will stick with him - someone has to pitch; but if 40 man spots get scarce, they should leave him off.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Sep 8, 2017 -> 09:25 AM) Our Ken Berry, didn't sing and dance, but he won a couple of Gold Gloves and even made the 1967 All Star team, despite batting just .241 and collecting only 25 XBH, the entire season. And was then moved to the Angels in one of Rollie Hemond's earliest and best trades.

And thus, stockpile pitching

Drafting early round college relievers (who do not project as pro starters) another bad habit that needs to be expunged.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Sep 3, 2017 -> 09:46 AM) Do the Sox sell high in Avi while his value is high? Does any team give up some top prospects for him? I think the Sox should sell high in him if possible and see if you can bet a top 100 prospect+ Maybe, but I don't think they'd get a whole lot for him. His HR total is low - and thus I assume his BABIP is really high. While I find that statistic at least 50% phony (it assumes a tap to the mound v. a bash off the wall is a matter of "luck"), most people in baseball seem to like it. Anyway, I think just keep him until July of 2019 and see what the offers are.

Narvaez with an OBP over .370 and his OPS is finally over .700. This is really nice development from a clever pick-up, who had been cast-off by the Rays.

Good Went heavily for bats in 2017 draft. Can hide mediocre hitting in spots. Can't hide mediocre or bad pitching in any spot. As said above, need for pitching is endless.

Looks like he needs a lot of work on his change. Good to see him working on it though - now is the time.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 1, 2017 -> 02:19 PM) Did his arm fall off? Did he have TJ? He's not a 40 year old, you don't "lose" 1st round stuff as a 23 year old with no injuries. He probably still has first round stuff. But his delivery was such that he couldn't repeat it pitch after pitch. Has that been fixed?

I think the Sox are sitting pretty well from a position player standpoint, esp. if Jiminez and Moncada can bash. They have a few players to filter through who actually have some value. May have to dress some of them up and move them in December. CF still an issue; maybe they should decide which of May or Engel has the talent to be a ML player, and put him Charlotte for a year to develop the bat.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 1, 2017 -> 04:22 AM) Like, seriously, there is no way the Sox could ever make you happy. The fact that they traded Gonzalez for anything made me happy. Like I said, I didn't expect much, and they didn't get much. This particular player has already been a pro for 4 seasons, hasn't hit at all, and will be Rule 5 eligible next year (as I read the rule), so he isn't my cup of tea among the "lottery ticket" types. Re Gonzalez, despite an average career, he pitched great the last month, so yes I hoped for something a little better. Didn't expect it, but hoped.