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Great game! But I have to say, Miguel Gonzalez would look good in an Astros uniform!

Anderson's salary/contract is a sunk cost, so it's irrelevant at this point. He's had a rough season....but still better than Profar.

Send Engel back to AAA, and give him at least half a season to work on his hitting. He was in A ball in 2016, so he moved up pretty quickly. Delmonico's bat is ready - give him time in the field to see if he can be a legit LF. Avi plays RF; hope he has another good year and then move him in July. IF won't be changed much from where it is. But then there is the pitching......

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Aug 7, 2017 -> 09:05 AM) I don't think he was prepared for the majors and should probably still be in the minors but I also felt that Rodon should have not come up until this year as well. I really hope things in this organization have changed other trading MLB talent for MiLB talent. If not it's going to be a long decade. Yep. Using these prospects to build a competitive major league team is a lot harder than tearing it down. And considering what they had to trade, it shouldn't be on a Astros-like timeline.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 6, 2017 -> 10:43 AM) Cordell and Gillespie are better prospects than Puckett. Maybe, but it's also a matter of what was given up to get the prospect.

This is my favorite of the minor July trades (among Cabrera, Jennings, Swarzak). At least one of the pitchers is a legit prospect, which is nice return.

My only quibble is that Gillapsie seems at least 10 spots too high to me. But informative list -thanks for posting it.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 05:46 PM) Do they trade him for prospects? No. At least not any time soon.

The Sox have a bunch of Domonic Browns. Don't need any more. Profar has never had an OPS in excess of .660 and he has 2 more years of control. This year he sports a .501. We have a bunch of those guys too.

Well it's basically a done deal - yall will get your wish. But i don't have to like it - particularly the sloppy play in achieving the #1 pick.

Of the players we've seen this year: Davidson, Delmonico, L Garcia for sure. (And obviously Moncada, Avi, Anderson and Abreu). Maybe: really, the rest of them, but Sanchez, Saladino, Narvaez, W. Garcia. The Sox just don't have that many to call up. Pitching: Rodon, Jones, Putnam. That's about it. They'll likely bring back a few of the other guys by default, but I don't see much promise.

Jennings did yeoman work this year. He was over-used but largely effective. Don't get the exuberance for Gilaspie. .667 OPS, another corner player, like most acquisitions and most of the draft.Very little up the middle. Light on pitching.

Could have been a triple play.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 06:51 PM) Explains why no Burger tonight LOL I would bet it's someone like Asche maybe....Seattle might take a chance. Okay it's cash...fine...I suppose. Machi - yikes!

Is this April Fools day?

Stanton is not a super star. But he is kind of a Kenny Williams player, so something like this wouldn't surprise me. But it's the same old story. The team has a dozen holes, but lets's load up the wagon and bring in the "star" The Sox still wouldn't have made the playoffs even if Frazier was the type of player so many thought he was. Lessons never, ever leaned. Heck, we just had a superstar - one a lot better than Stanton - and we traded him.

Melky will finish the season a 1 WAR player, if he gets hot. Just get him off the team so others can play. Or simply bench him after July, if there are no takers at the freebie bin.

For now, concentrate on defense. No chance if those 2 positions aren't defensively sound. You can win without offense from them (if your other 7 can it). And they become available....you just have to be ready to pounce.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 04:31 PM) My only concern is that Cashman is a smart GM, and really never trades the "wrong guy" so to speak. Not saying Rutherford won't pan out, but it does give me some pause. Rizzo had that rep too. I'm hoping this is a case of lot of OF depth + slow start. Clarkin is easy to see - Rule 5 (of course, that's why I think the Sox should have gotten more - he was zilch to the Yanks).

Well, this year, Saladino has a .574 OPS and Yomer has a .716 OPS. Yolmer is now 17th in 1B WAR (was 15th) ahead of LeMahieu and Odor, among others. I was a Saladino guy, and this bears watching, but Yolmer has some value and has had a solid year - his first with real playing time. And no, don't trade him for a relief pitching prospect.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 02:43 PM) I'm not a huge fan of trading a guy like this who you have for 5 more seasons at little cost. You'd be extremely lucky to get someone as useful as he is in return. Agree Plus, this loading of prospects wasn't exactly big on defense and he can play defense. I hope they keep him and play him. Heck play him some at SS...can anyone be confident that the Sox set at that position? Don't bury him.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 08:43 PM) Asche is up to .351 while hitting for power & drawing a ton of walks. At some point it seems a little ridiculous to keep a 27 year old with a ~180 wRC+ in the minors. I agree. Bring him up. They saw something in him when they signed him and put him on the 25. have no idea what, but see what he has. Just as soon find out.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 06:48 PM) Our payroll will be like $40-50 million. Why do you think we wouldn't at least make a run at one of these guys? If I assume that a $40-$50 million payroll plus Harper makes the Sox a serious WS contender, then a $40-$50 million payroll without Harper would make the Sox at least a wild card team. It won't. They'll need more payroll to be solid everywhere, depth, relief, etc. If JR is willing to go to $130, $140, then maybe so. The spent 2/3 of a Harper on group of has-beens last year, so it would be a good investment.

Yolmer would be an upgrade for the Rays at 2nd.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 03:42 PM) It's possible he's different, but the White Sox haven't proved to me yet that they can identify the players that defy the trends of something like common decline from aging or relief variability. They will probably have to for us to actually make most of rebuild. But for now, I'm much happier that they are accepting the broad trends likely to predict performance and risk for groups like relievers and taking the safer route. Especially when they got imo acceptable value. Really compelling post and ideas. The analysis could also be applied in support of the entire decision to rebuild.