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Nice Team needed a W Can't lose them all. And congrats to Juan M.

Leury is a good player. I don't see a real need to deal with an extension anytime soon. They could do it now and it would be cheap; wait a year and if he performs it's more expensive. On the other hand, other guys might develop who are as good as Leury and play similar positions. If that happens, they can trade him or the other guy (likely for pitching). Engel is handling CF defensively - the bat though; not sure how a guy like Narvaez is doing defensively, but his bat, while not good, is no worse than what the Sox have gotten since AJ's prime and he's improving. And he gets on base. The position players/prospects are coming around. Looks like the Sox will have a lot of solid hitters, and maybe 1 or 2 elite ones. That will do the trick. I know I'm a contrarian, but to me it's the pitching. I count maybe 10-12 solid prospects, but they need double that number. I know the Cubs traded for and signed pitching, but that's hit or miss too.

QUOTE (Quin @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 08:37 PM) Dude. This is the epitome of hero worship. LOL No, it's a request to have some semblance of competence on this team. There is no one - not one bullpen pitcher - who should be on a major league roster. Not one. Do you think a game like this and loss after loss helps development? And Petricka - good lord, he's never been any good at all.

$1 million is nothing in baseball terms. While nothing special, he was the only guy on the roster who showed any competence in the pen - a pen that has to support a starting staff that has trouble finishing the 6th inning. So why give him up for a pittance? Do they have to have THE number 1 pick to make a good pick?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 12:38 PM) What does amuse me is the blind faith people are putting in this front office. Supposedly they couldn't identify major league pieces that fit a winning roster, couldn't draft or develop for s*** for years, now they acquire all these prospects and are geniuses. They are going to win 100 games a year for a decade. To me, identifying major league players who can help a team vs. prospects who will develop into stars, seems to be a lot easier. And the people in charge failed to do the easy one. Why is it a slam dunk this is going to work out just fine? The wrong guys go south and this could be a disaster. They did what they did, and probably what they had to do, I'm still looking at it cautiously. I'm not sold on the talent evaluators and developers. I don't know why they suddenly would become top of the line. Yep Fans are fans; nothing wrong with people being excited. But what saddens/scares me is that the man who is in charge, JR, has blind faith in this Front Office. I think key to success/failure of what they are trying to do remains the actual drafting by the White Sox, begun in 2016 and ongoing. They have changed the type of player they are drafting I suppose, but I still haven't seen a big improvement in talent evaluation or development. But we'll see.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 14, 2017 -> 08:55 PM) That's why we made the playoffs four consecutive years (2003-04-05-06)...because of that amazing 2000 prospect class that was ranked #1. If that farm had been as good as advertised, the Sox would have been a monster for years. As it is, with just 1 more good starter and reliever, they grab another playoff appearance or two.

Thank goodness.

QUOTE (JPR @ Aug 14, 2017 -> 12:00 PM) Absolutely amazing the best gM in da game turned this piece of Bronx trash into anything! From what I can tell, they turned him into nothing. Not sure why the Astros deserved a giveaway, but so be it.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 14, 2017 -> 09:44 AM) What do you mean bout the pitching being a disaster zone? The starting rotation is Rodon, Giolito, Lopez, Kopech (sp?) and Cease. these are all can't miss major leaguers. Plus Hansen, Fulmer and Dunning. Burdi, Adams and Clarkin. You already have a full staff of starters and relievers here. Like I said add one vet starter maybe and 2 bullpen guys for a few bucks and you are talking low low payroll for a No. 1 in the league pitching staff. The two prospects for 1 major league player doesn't make sense regarding these guys. And I'm probably forgetting somebody. Yea, they're all cinches. That's the kind of dreamland in which the Sox lived in 2015-2016....at least this time it is with young players, with their better years ahead of them. With all the Sox had to trade, this should not be a 5 year rebuild.

The pitching is ridiculously thin. Exactly 2 major league pitchers on the major league team; if you generously figure 2 prospects for 1 major league player, and if you assume Lopez is major league, they would need 6 good starting prospects and 10-12 for the bullpen. And that would still leave them with no depth. So, to answer the question, it may be a while.

Of all the relief pitchers who will be available.....Clippard?

Nicknames...yikes!

Great game! But I have to say, Miguel Gonzalez would look good in an Astros uniform!

Anderson's salary/contract is a sunk cost, so it's irrelevant at this point. He's had a rough season....but still better than Profar.

Send Engel back to AAA, and give him at least half a season to work on his hitting. He was in A ball in 2016, so he moved up pretty quickly. Delmonico's bat is ready - give him time in the field to see if he can be a legit LF. Avi plays RF; hope he has another good year and then move him in July. IF won't be changed much from where it is. But then there is the pitching......

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Aug 7, 2017 -> 09:05 AM) I don't think he was prepared for the majors and should probably still be in the minors but I also felt that Rodon should have not come up until this year as well. I really hope things in this organization have changed other trading MLB talent for MiLB talent. If not it's going to be a long decade. Yep. Using these prospects to build a competitive major league team is a lot harder than tearing it down. And considering what they had to trade, it shouldn't be on a Astros-like timeline.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 6, 2017 -> 10:43 AM) Cordell and Gillespie are better prospects than Puckett. Maybe, but it's also a matter of what was given up to get the prospect.

This is my favorite of the minor July trades (among Cabrera, Jennings, Swarzak). At least one of the pitchers is a legit prospect, which is nice return.

My only quibble is that Gillapsie seems at least 10 spots too high to me. But informative list -thanks for posting it.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 05:46 PM) Do they trade him for prospects? No. At least not any time soon.

The Sox have a bunch of Domonic Browns. Don't need any more. Profar has never had an OPS in excess of .660 and he has 2 more years of control. This year he sports a .501. We have a bunch of those guys too.

Well it's basically a done deal - yall will get your wish. But i don't have to like it - particularly the sloppy play in achieving the #1 pick.

Of the players we've seen this year: Davidson, Delmonico, L Garcia for sure. (And obviously Moncada, Avi, Anderson and Abreu). Maybe: really, the rest of them, but Sanchez, Saladino, Narvaez, W. Garcia. The Sox just don't have that many to call up. Pitching: Rodon, Jones, Putnam. That's about it. They'll likely bring back a few of the other guys by default, but I don't see much promise.

Jennings did yeoman work this year. He was over-used but largely effective. Don't get the exuberance for Gilaspie. .667 OPS, another corner player, like most acquisitions and most of the draft.Very little up the middle. Light on pitching.

Could have been a triple play.