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QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 10:37 PM) Not the sexy draft picks some might say, but burger and sheets both help to fill gaps that this organization currently did not have. Power hitting 3B prospect and a left handed dh/1b prospect with power. Both have seen the ability to draw walks and neither strikes or a ton (for now). In what appears to be a fairly weak draft these could become important depth for the organization at positions that were pretty barren. I prefer the best player available approach versus reaching for need and position. No one knows which players will succeed, which will flame out. If you end up with surplus in one position, you can use it to fill holes in others.

Flowers goes deep on Albers again!

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 08:39 PM) Wow. Nationals just picked Seth Romero. Great pick. He wasn't kicked off the team for stealing, hurting anybody or anything like that.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 08:14 PM) Missed the end of the answer by Hostetler, but seems like he said focus might be on lefty hitter in 2nd or 3rd How about best player available? Amass talent. It can be sorted out later.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 07:59 PM) Hostetler just got asked about trading picks, similar to what I asked in another thread. He said it's coming in the next CBA or two but he's not thrilled about it Creates another advantage to skilled front offices...the most able of which probably will just keep their picks.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 07:35 PM) I think I will like this pick much more if it's underslot. Yep It needs to be.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 07:20 PM) Just my opinion that he will be under slot Hopefully - he was generally in the 15-25 range, not 11. But have the Sox ever signed a player under slot?

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 07:18 PM) Not necessarily. A lot of clubs today are valuing position players very highly. Got Eaton that way. I just don't see any value in reaching.

Hope not. Take best talent available; no reaching - no position picking. Can always trade pitching if there's an excess.

Don't reach; take one of the pitchers.

Not difficult at all - do not draft him. Whether he should be allowed in MLB or another team should draft him is another question. But as for the Sox: do not draft.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 11, 2017 -> 04:04 PM) Moustakas just hit his 16th homer, fwiw. That said, Frazier will have a significantly lower asking price...who else needs a 3B right now? Either one of those guys would fit well in Boston. Sandoval only at 616 ops. Obviously Todd can DH and play 1b as well. I'm hoping the Royals hesitate for another month before moving into the sell mode (and obviously that the Sox act aggressively in that time). The Royals have players that would compete with both Frazier and Robertson on the trade market.

Just don't see teams willing to pay a top of the rotation price for Q at this point. I also don't see the Sox accepting anything less. Trading for a guy having a good year on a 1 year contract is probably a more sound investment for a contender.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 11, 2017 -> 03:40 PM) How many games are the Sox going to lose outhitting their opponents this year, 40? Due to 29th in walks, 29th in doubles, 23rd in homers. Ranked high in triples, but no team hits many of those anyway.

QUOTE (Tony @ Jun 10, 2017 -> 10:33 PM) Takes two teams to make a deal. And there are teams that will need him. The challenge is that it looks like there will be may be 10 buyers and 20 sellers this year.

QUOTE (rowand's rowdies @ Jun 10, 2017 -> 10:08 AM) Nice article by ESPN on best players from each draft slot since it started in 1965. They based everything on WAR. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1955342...every-spot-1-30 McCutcheon, Scherzer & G Springer best at #11. Sale best ever at #13. 2nd best pick at #16 is....Brett Lawrie. My thoughts are that you really need a top 3 pick to have a chance at a superstar and a top 15 pick to really even have a chance at anything more than a crapshoot. Shows how much talent there is outside the first round ( some of those slots were mighty thin, as you pointed out). it's a crapshoot but some shoot (evaluate talent) better than others.

Another value outing for Robertson. I really don't know what more he needs to showcase. He can pitch the ninth, he can pitch multiple innings (the need for which is in vogue these days), and he already pitched effectively 3 days in a row. The demand may increase over the next 6 weeks, but I don't see how he pitches better than he has been.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 10, 2017 -> 07:35 AM) What? They want Engel to get everyday at-bats and he wasn't going to get those with Luery playing well in front of him. That's how I see it....give daily CF work to both Engel and L Garcia and find out if either (or both) is a keeper.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jun 4, 2017 -> 08:35 AM) Not sure I totally agree with you. I think Sanchez is a keeper but Moncada will eventually push him off 2nd. Maybe he becomes the utility player. But that might mean Leury will not have a role. So I think one of two has a place in the future as a utility player. Davidson has shown a good power bat but his 40%+ SO rate is way too high. Hopefully over the rest of the season that drops. Avi has become a major plus and solves one OF position if he continues. Anderson's bat is much better than last year so that is a positive. I did say IF. And IF the talent is abundant, it will sort itself out. If Yolmer keeps this up, perhaps it will be Moncada who needs to move - to the outfield. Anyway, the chances of any individual Sanchez, L Garcia et al sticking is greater than the chances of most individual prospects (with the inherent flame out rate of prospects) becoming contributors; none were expected, so it's all a plus.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 10:20 AM) The whole point of the thread is not to go for it but that our rebuild is super far along, which is super enviable. Good players are about to come up from AAA. Celebrate! The Sox have traded 3 players; the tear-down hasn't even finished. The one area in which the rebuild is ahead of schedule is if Sanchez, Davidson and L Garcia are keepers....certainly so far so good, and their performance would fit on a competitive team.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 01:23 PM) Just sayin... 7-15 outside the division. 12-17 on the road. 15 of the next 19 games are on the road. Probably will be good and buried by the break. And 8-18 against teams with winning records.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 06:57 PM) I think we all know that there will be trades but there are players we still have control and a couple we might even consider extending a year or two until our minor league prospects are ready. There's no need or benefit to a complete tanking The only veterans in contract years who are contributing and perhaps worth extending are Gonzales and Holland because the young pitching is neither ready not particularly deep. But those 2 might also bring something back in trade, so it would make more sense to trade then re-sign if they want them.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 01:53 PM) Beck is 18/5 K/BB in 19 innings with a 2.84 ERA and a 17.6 HR/FB%. Sox shining some turds this year. Sure are. Sox were due some good fortune in that department.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 07:59 AM) Not the only concern I'd have. As I said in my post above, the Diamondbacks farm in incredibly thin on talent. Take a look and there just really is not much of anything in their cupboard moving forward. Well some of the Sox 2nd tier pitching might work for them.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 07:05 AM) I think you just got to hope Frazier goes on an extended hot streak between now and July 31st. That's it. His OPS is .667; his batting average is .184. He's played 2 games at first base this season...give him some more work there could help some. Decent chance someone will take a flier in an August waiver deal, with the only risk a month or 2 of salary. I guess it could help the Sox recoup some of the money they will have to pay forward on Robertson in order to get good deal for him. Frazier makes $12 million; he will take a big pay cut next season...probably one of those 1 year deals to recoup value.