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That seems like a good approach; although I think they really did want to move Q. Don't get that feeling with Abreu, but I hope they are open to it.
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Fine - you're using an exception to disprove a rule... someone with the bat-speed and strength of Bonds overcame it, a little guy like Madrigal should be able to as well. You got me. Mike Trout wasn't a top 5 pick; therefore top 5 picks don't matter.
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Nothing like the exception posing as the rule.
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I was on the Madrigal bandwagon, despite the lack of power, until I read the word "hitch." A lot of flaws in the upper environs of this draft.
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Do what the Astros did: go prep, lowball the offer, do not sign, come back at #5 in a stronger draft next year (presuming that's still the rule). And if he signs, you'll be way underslot and be able to use that premium in later rounds.
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High flame-out rate; injury rate; contending White Sox teams have historically been at least a starter short. Giolito was a top 10 guy once, Fulmer top 100 and #8 pick. But it's tough to draft a prep arm that high; Mize will be gone and please not Singer. That said, I'd always draft best player available and this draft is no exception, unless they can really do a "underslot" and then "overslot" a prep player.
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I would send him to the minors. Give him a different voice from Cooper. No reason to give up on him either. A lot of prospects don't make it - so far, 3 top pitching prospects are up and only 1 looks like a keeper. Which is why counting out 7 nice pitching prospects in the minors and saying "there's our rotation of the future" won't work. Stunted growth, injuries...keep the pipeline flowing. Draft better.
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Instead of going for the throat early in the game, Ricky sacrifice bunts. Just like the consistently poor talent evaluation (or non-evaluation) of veterans - yea, it doesn't matter now. But it's not going to change when it does matter, because it was this way when it did matter.
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Yolmer is also getting better. Don't really want a bunch of mediocre volume for him. The Sox would be lucky to get another Yolmer for him - and that Yolmer wouldn't be Yolmer for a few years. Or it would be another stunted AAA guy like Tilson. The C+s are what I want out of these bullpen flippers.
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Surprise: Rosenbloom article bashes Sox/Renteria
GreenSox replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
4 - Outbidding every other team, which is what matters. If 1-3 are so important, why didn't/aren't other non-contenders pursuing him. -
Sox.Orioles Game thread 5.23.18 The Return of Covey
GreenSox replied to southsider2k5's topic in 2018 Season in Review
Well, that was a good game. Might have a find with Covey - he had no chance last year, essentially moving from A ball to the majors. This org has more success with the back end of other teams prospect lists than they do front-line line veterans. -
White Sox Sign Alex Presley (on CHA Active roster)
GreenSox replied to Sleepy Harold's topic in Pale Hose Talk
The guy is 32, had a great year (for him) in 2017, but was sporting OPS in the .600s and .500s between 2012-2016, and has zero chance to be part of the future. He's not the guy who should be in Chicago. -
I don't know what the Sox can get, but I agree with you that it will be more than the Tigers got. Tigers just made a bad, premature trade.
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Surprise: Rosenbloom article bashes Sox/Renteria
GreenSox replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
What makes playing with the White Sox so special such that he would pick the Sox over other teams because he played here? That was also the "justification" for renting Samardzija off of 73 wins. -
Surprise: Rosenbloom article bashes Sox/Renteria
GreenSox replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
The White Sox are so insular that they probably do think that Machado will like it here so much he'll beg to come; that's the only thing that could possibly explain a rebuilding team trying to trade for 1 year of his services. It's ridiculous. Rosenberg went a little hyperbolic, but he is correct: the play is sloppy. -
A lot of teams are bringing in managers who will be responsive to front office re tactical decisions, personnel, etc. but these new managers aren’t house-guys either. They come from outside. As for benching Castillo, disciplining that but not the many other boneheaded plays, esp on the base path, is silly.
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I haven't been following Mize because I assumed, based on reputation, that he'd be long gone. But that info on the chat doesn't sound favorable at all (cutter/splitter guy; injury issues). Maybe going underslot is the way to go; and then use the savings to lure prep players later. But that all has to be pre-planned and worked out, and it doesn't seem they are looking that way.
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Clarkin was rule 5 eligible; never pitched above A ball with the Yankees. He wasn't terrible in A ball, but he wasn't great and he was there a long time. He was a longshot prospect by the time the Sox got him. That whole trade was Rutherford - the throw-ins were really weak (the Quintana throw-ins were far more interesting). He's been a slow mover - maybe a late bloomer at some point. Just his first year in AA.
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i.e. there have been worse hitters, including those at premium offensive positions.
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Don't forget the opening month designated hitter, Cody Asche and his .105 batting average and .353 OPS.
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Michael Saunders Signed (Reports to CHA)
GreenSox replied to Sleepy Harold's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Yea you're right. I was looking at the wrong column. Thanks for the correction. Anyway, no rush. I thought the push might begin this year, but it's next year. -
Michael Saunders Signed (Reports to CHA)
GreenSox replied to Sleepy Harold's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Eloy has a .331 OBP in AA. He's got things to accomplish. Saunders shouldn't be anywhere near Chicago anytime this season; numerous players who need auditions before him. Still I'm not sure why Thompson's on this team (with all due respect to September, 2015).
