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What about the context, though? Back then, we were trying to win, and could have put those free agent $$ anytime soon. Today, unless I'm missing something, the Sox won't be investing in FAs anytime soon.

Well, the proposal doesn't seem that awful to me.

He has a lot of arm talent; scouts might see something they can fix. Teams might envision him as a starter for next season. Someone's top 10-15. Heck last year we got Dodgers #10 plus Leasure for Kelly and Lynn,

Big game tonight. Crochet against a good hitting team and Crochet against specifically the Dodgers. I don't know if the Dodgers lineup with the Sox prospect-wise (although I'm sure we could make something work) but they could really minimize the Crochet risk as they don't need him to help win a division: they just need him for the postseason. Also I have this inkling that, for better or probably worse, Getz might try to stuff Benintendi into one of these trades, and they could obviously make that happen.

Well, he's a heck of a lot better than Hostetler, who was absolutely atrocious. But whether he's particularly good remains to be seen. He punted way too much in 2019 and 2020 so that he could sign 3 high school pitchers, all 3 of whom are absolute busts. Heck, he punted 60% of the 2020 draft so that they could sign Jared Kelley. He's cut down on the punting and on the high school pitching. Fortunately, Shultz looks like a big winner.

Law concurs in your evaluation. Pushed him out of his June top 50.

That's a big negatory. Cease only yielded 1 bottom half top 100, so I guess that's what we can expect. But I just don't care for those players. I don't really care about top 100 either, given that we aren't going to get an elite prospect anyway, It's asking a lot, but I'd like the Sox to be on top of some of these farm systems and find the players who will be top 100 this time next year. The other team will be more amenable, will give up more of them, and they will have a "who could have known" excuse ready-made, which they will hopefully need.

Anderson never had that level of OBP. it's not that unusual for a player to have a few good years and then head south. But when you had 2 glaring holes even when winning (2b and RF) and no depth should something bad happen, it gets magnified.

And this org. certainly needs some impact. Can't blame him for Burger, Vaughn, etc. Just none of those pitchers with the first pick.

Love Big George's swing. Smooth. 17 hits, but 15 singles for the Dash.

Yes, but Crochet has pitched like an ace all season; and the only season in which he's started. Vaughn has hit like a stud for most of 1 month, among many months he's hit. And then there's the risk (both injury and regression): substantial risk in holding Crochet; minimal risk in holding Vaughn (who has little value right now anyway because he's only been good for a month.).

I certainly wouldn't trade Vaughn. He pisses me off a lot, but he's having a great June; maybe he's figured it out. Maybe he hasn't, but all he'll return is some team's 10-15 prospect. A lot more to lose than to gain. Obviously trade Pham and Dejong for whatever you can get. Pham, a filler signee, is better than the guys they signed for RF when they were trying in 2020-2023. I like Dejong; he handles his affairs at SS and has some pop. I'd sign him to placehold next year as we wait for the young guys. Robert, if traded, will be for $.50 on the dollar. Get him healthy, hope he has good first half of 2025. Still has 2.5 years of control at that point, which I believe was the Soto timeline when the Nats traded him. They'll never get full value for Crochet as a 30 starts/year ace with 2.5 years of control. But they might get 75% of that. If they can, I think that they have to try to trade him. It's just too risky to hold him. That leaves Fedde who should return his full value, if not more.

Pedro showing true strength and leadership in his coddling of veterans.

My mistake on his age; that is a big difference, but he's still younger. And there's never a point where you need 4 Mendicks on the roster.

Vaughn: Mr Clutch.

That could be true (although the exception); but that's where stunted and declining prospects hang out, so you have to be careful and precise in the scouting.

Hard to claim that someone is duped on his own player. Trading Tatis was ignorance; or in hahn's case laziness and desperation. Paddy advised him not to trade Tatis.

We'll find out. A tell is trading, say, a reliever for someone on the other team's 40-man. That is usually a trade on the other team's terms. Hahn made several such trades in July - I never thought he was duped, but just doing the GM a favor or just being lazy. We saw last summer what he can do when he really tried.

i wasn't paying attention to the ages when the Sox were sifting through the utility infielders at the end of spring; but Dejong, Mendick, Lopez and Remillard are all around 30. Gonzales, the one they DFAd (and the one who started in CF for the RedSox last night) is 23. This all reeks of Pedro. Bad managers don't like to deal with young players: they don't like their moments of immaturity and they don't like having to actually teach as required for young players with potential.

Sox get the lead runner on in the 8th, and Pedro refuses to pinch hit for any of the next 3 hitters,. The players have got to know what a raging incompetent that management has saddled them with - that can't help. If the FO wants to put on a clown act instead of hiring a professional manager, why shouldn't they act any differently?

Never

Hahn excelled in trading young players for old. Getz excels in DFAing young players to keep room for old.

You help him develop 4 pitches so he can start. Or better yet, ditch the pitching entirely.

Leads the team in OBP, but showing no power at all. But I doubt Pedro makes his decisions on such things anyway. Contenders are more willing to play young players than Pedro is.

I see Pedro has Colas back in his doghouse. Hasn't started in a week. Wouldn't even let him pinch hit for Nickie Lopez.