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While there is a lack of certainty as to how many games he can pitch, if he stays with the Sox, that uncertainty should still exist at the end of the season, as the Sox should limit his innings as health is #1 priority. An acquiring team, however, should just keep pitching him; No one knows what that limit is, if it even exists. After all, he's already well exceeded his previous output. I heard Law suggest that the acquirer give him a contract that buys out his arb years, and just tell him that we'll pitch you until you feel uncomfortable. In all, I'm not so sure that the price will be better in the offseason.

I think it would behoove Getz and the Sox to get on top of this early. There will be a lot more sellers than currently predicted. I think Tampa will join the "trade anyone" party and there will be another 8 -10 teams willing l to sell any player on an expiring contract or even 1.5 contract.

If he doesn't, he has no leverage at all next year and has a lot more to lose than to gain by waiting (assuming he's a 3 year player). On the other hand, that might be okay for the Sox - stronger draft next year. They need to draft athletic players. College pitching is spotty, even in the SEC. The executive twitterer is basically right- while corner infield drafting didn't put the Sox in the whole by itself, it contributed.

Well since Getz released Zavala shortly after he was named GM, I doubt he disagrees with the assessment of Zavala, a 2015 12th ranked pick that didn't develop into a major league regular... On another matter, why is Kuhl, who had been horrible in Charlotte on this major league roster, and why did Pedro choose bases loaded for his for appearance of the year?

Fedde made a discernable change in his pitching repertoire and is #16 in fwar. He's worth a lot more than some team's spare parts or declining prospects (which Getz has to be on the lookout for).

Isn’t Leasure one of our top relievers?

Thank You, Tanner.

I’ve never seen a manager with less feel for a bullpen. A lot of decisions are 50/50, but he makes the wrong choice time after time.

Padres did the same thing…. I suspect the same thing will happen if we trade crochet or Robert. We won’t get the elite. aces are so hard to come by. Really wish they would find a way to extend him, even given the risks.

Ozzie as manager is just another way to perpetuate the problem of insider Ian and old-line thinking. I do think that the team would be 10 to 15 games better with an average bullpen and an average manager.

Cannon did a great job in the pen yesterday; why not just leave him there and let him learn for the rest of the season or for a month? Lord knows he's better than the hacks that the Sox have in the pen. The pen is a good way to ease into the league; he can start next season.

No.

Not sure what your point is, but free agency started well before 1980 and the draft started before 1972.

In 1972, Steve Carlton won 27 games on the 59 win Phillies. 8 years later, he won 24 games on the World Champion Phillies.

Well it's the other teams that should have the sense of urgency to put forth packages FOR Crochet. They get one of the best pitchers in baseball for 2.5 more years. He'd be the #1 on 2/3 of the contenders. Getz needs to make them pay and pay big.

Another great game by crochet. And good job by Cannon showing these bums in the bullpen how to close out a game.

Woodford obviously needs to be DFAd tonight. That was a disgrace. I'd like to see them give Dominguez a shot. He's a AAAA guy, but he's been a Sox lifer, pitching decently in Charlotte and why not give him a moment in the sun?

He's not even a real prospect though, is he?

What is that? What TF is that? What is that Pedo, Chris and JR?

And Duke Ellis!

WTF, Kopech? I'm so broken, I'm starting to feel sorry for Pedro.

Sometimes when they move guys up real fast (without performance that would warrant it) or jump them a level to fill an opening, I get the feeling that the FO has basically given up on further development.

Objectively, I would say the AAA guys are suspect.

They could be competitive in 3 years if done correctly; 5 years away = 10 years away = perpetual rebuild (Pirates). Now I don't know whether Getz will do it correctly or not. But the farm has been improving, and not just from the players brought in from other orgs. And some of the farm will have to be traded, but never for aging players, rents or one-year wonders. More good news is that Crochet is #8 in pitcher fWAR (one spot ahead of Cease) and Fedde is #30, ahead of several name pitchers and pitchers whose names have been bandied about as having good years. I do wish that Getz had put more into this bullpen; they make nice trade pieces (and this horrid pen is a contributor to this being a 40 win team instead of 60 win). Can Getz get this done? I have no idea. But too early to give up or to pound on him.

Getz has made a few dumb personnel moves, but those things don't really make me think he'll be a bad GM (he's also made some good ones). He was saddled with a lot of immovable flotsam for this season. But the one thing that DOES scare me is that he retained Grifol and listens to him (Maldonado is probably a Grifol request). It was obvious a year ago that the game is way over Grifol's head. Getz needs to surround himself with strong baseball minds, and he should be self-aware enough to know that he needs to do that to succeed.