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I understand the hesitation as time depreciates value with these guys. Also, the GMs that he's dealing with are top-shelf; they probably want to rip him off like the Dodgers/Cardinals did. I wish the Angels or Mariners needed him. Even Philly - Dombrowski is a top-shelf GM obviously, but he will trade. They should at least be able to do a good volume trade with them that starts with Crawford + a couple of other prospects + a couple of prospects they get from the 3rd team who gets Bohm. Not ideal but acceptable imv.

This is feeling like it will end up like the last 2 big trades: Lots of teams say they want Crochet, but they won't offer much; Getz never gets a really good offer, and is stuck with taking the least sh$$$y offer right before Spring Training.

Jett had an OPS of .656 in 2024. I think he was hurt much of the year, with only 148 PAs. He also Ks a lot and is listed at 5-6, which I mentioned as that is oft mentioned about Madrigal and Fletcher. Overall, doesn't seem like the ideal headliner.

Who do the Mets have that we want? Yeah, I know Batty , but Sox should be able to get him for a middle reliever ( if we had one).

Well, he is still called by his White Sox name, “Dick.” he was Richie Allen with the Phillies. congrats to Dick Allen. Long time coming and much deserved..

For trying to acquire a couple of top 50 prospects, it seems so.

The attitudes were Eloy, Yoan and some veteran pitchers. Hard to understand how the farm director is supposed to change attitudes, especially when they were in the "system" for less than 2 years and 1 year respectively. Their attitudes probably explains why Hahn was able to acquire them in the first place. It reflects on the lack of due-diligence from the right-honorable former GM. I guess Crochet has a bit of an attitude, but it's just because he wanted to start, which he was right about. Getz built a bad 2024 roster, did meh on the Cease trade and was just obliterated in the Fedde/Kopech trade. I'd like to see him improve on those aspects of his game starting now in the winter meetings.

Sanchez and O'Neil hit homers. Discernable production. Both contracts are reasonable to me; but I consider contract duration as a factor. Lower cost Santander. Slater is hurt by recency (really bad last year) which also inflates O'Neil. I didn't realize we signed him - good move. Orioles should trade for pitching - they really don't have anymore top prospects to hug, so maybe they will be willing to deal in volume and find a receptive team.

Yeah, it’s probably market value. The Giants, and especially the Mets, can sign whoever they want at the market price. But I still think it’s too high and not the best use of resources for most teams. I like that Orioles’ signing of Tyler O’Neill. They have him for 3 years on similar terms that the Sox have Benintendi for 3 years.

OK. 5-10 ranked SS still not worth $25 million a year for 7 years. You can get your offense from other positions for a lot less cost. I like young players for that middle infield position due to the economics. Hopefully we can get one for crochet.

That’s not really what he said. Regardless, that .248 batting average is complemented by a .322 OBP and a .766 OPS. The contract seems a tad steep.

I can see Caissie being involved...it's easier to trade non-homegrown prospects. But what I don't see (from his stats) is Caissie's eliteness. A lot of K in his game. His D doesn't project to be much. You're betting on that hit tool really delivering 30 HR+ per season. Could happen.

Sad news. May he rest in peace.

If Bohm is part of it, and the Sox should try to accommodate that for Philly, they need to bring in a 3rd team in. Those prospects will be part of the package and could affect what we want/need from Philly. This "flip" stuff never works. I don't think Philly is trying to give him away; heck, they still may be pushing for him to be their main piece, similar to Edman in the Fedde deal. Hopefully Getz performs a lot better this time. As for Robert, I don't see much downside in keeping him around for $20 million, unless the Sox would actually dispatch that $20 million for player they think can be more productive than Robert. Of course the Sox should spend $; need to spend $; Getz can finally make inspired trades and draft picks and it will still be extremely difficult to rebuild this operation from ground zero without spending.

Isn’t this a good thing, as it tightens the supply of the elite available left-handed starters? And the size of the contract versus Crochet’s also should enhance his demand.

The challenge is how to get Philly to give up Miller

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Trade him to Philly for Walker. May have to add some $ (Beni is owed $9 mill more). If nothing else, Walker's contract ends after 2026 rather than 2027.

That's true, but it's the front office that needs to figure out a different way to extract value, whether it's compensating with higher volume or something else. Maybe they can use the draft better; Cags was right there for the taking - high risk/high reward - and they went for the high risk/high reward pitcher. Abreu, the guy that the RedSox apparently are peddling, was a non-descript prospect in a 2022 trade of Christian Vasquez to the Astros. His RedSox debut was #23 on their prospect list. The next year, he's in the majors.. A lot of that is luck, but you can put yourself in a better position to get lucky when you analyze, develop and scout well.

He has mid rotation stuff. So they traded 2 years of a TOR pitcher for 5/6 years of a pitcher who could end up in the middle of the rotation. Need to stop trading on the other team's terms (which they also did with Bummer and Fedde/Kopech). That's made more difficult by the not so subtle message that they "have" to trade a particular player.

Why in the world would anyone think that the White Sox would consider Bohm when he has the exact same length of control as crochet does. They would have to bring a third team in, but no team is going to give more than second or third tier prospects for an average player like Bohm.

Because he averages 5+ BBs per 9 at the ripe young age of 32.

Why would they tender Anderson?

Are they willing to send $30 million to the acquiring team?

None of the unprotected relievers seems overly compelling. But they also have some real riffraff on the 40 man, including relief pitching, that needs culling: Anderson, Kuhl, e.g.