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QUOTE (Knackattack @ Aug 28, 2015 -> 02:59 PM) Cespedes is pretty much the perfect player for the Sox to go after, but he will probably get a 6-7 year deal, same as Heyward, and the last 2 years do you trust a 36/37 year old Cespedes in right field or a 32/33 year old Heyward? Actually, he's the kind of player the Sox should avoid. Low OBP, pain in the ass, 30. 3 teams in a year. Cespedes won't get a 6 or 7 year deal anyway.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 6, 2015 -> 09:12 PM) I don't know why, but to me, Zobrist screams ".230 hitter" for the Sox. Just the type of thing where a guy has a good track record but struggles here. Same with Harrison- I wouldn't say 2014 was an anomaly for him, but I don't see him ever having a season as good as that one again. I think his 2015 numbers are more indicative of the player he really is. That's because he's 35 and the Sox record with >30 is pretty bad. Neil Walker himself is 30; like to see someone younger. Has bad defensive metrics, FWIW. And he'd be a 1 year rent. Pass. Pirates would never get a mid-rotation starter for him anyway. Not the kind of players I'd trade young pitching for. Prefer to take a different approach than "proven veteran."

Look at Jordan Guerrero - closing the season with a shutout.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Sep 6, 2015 -> 03:52 PM) I wonder how much we will see Olt this September? Cueto made him look like s*** but against the other guys he got a couple nice line drive singles and made a nice play on D. HOpefully he plays every day. Saladino to short. Alexei to DH

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Sep 6, 2015 -> 04:18 PM) Now it's time to go home and lay an egg against CLE #2015 That's what we did last time we came home after a road sweep.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 6, 2015 -> 03:44 PM) Tor claimed 3b - Matt Dominguez from the waivers. i am wondering if the sox had a chance to claim him or did Tor claimed him before the sox..... does anyone know the order of the waiver list. Sox grabbed the more interesting 3B lottery ticket.

Sale, Rodon, Samardzija (if he accepts QO or mid-priced free agent), Johnson, Danks One ace, one potential ace. Q trade should shore up holes. Minor league pitching (which is still in A ball) is protected.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 5, 2015 -> 06:38 PM) If he is in the picture it means he is showing his earlier promise. He has power, somethimg the Sox can use. Chances are. A year from now we will all forget he was ever a White Sox, but it is worth a shot. Agree

Beckham is in the lineup tonight. Just the player the Front Office should be trying to get a good look at.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 5, 2015 -> 02:37 PM) What's Olt's status for next season? Does he have minor league options remaining? Probably not, or he would be in Cubbie AAA - right? I'm glad they're bringing him up - find out what they have. Probably nothing, but the Sox have nothing at 3rd anyway. Meanwhile, would someone kindly tell Don Ventura to sit Alexei for the rest of the season and let Saladino or Sanchez work at short?

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 06:25 PM) Kenny actually seemed to do better when he didn't have as much money to play around with. Mark yep. And his best trades were the small ones. When he would decided to pile on the prospects for the "elite" player, they weren't so elite when they came back here.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 03:49 PM) Focusing too much on cutter caused his fastball to not be ready out of Spring Training? Also, I've said all year his mechanics are different than last season. He's pitching less over the top, which has caused his splitter to not have the same movement from last year. Cutter is Don Cooper's m.o.

I believe it. Note how Samardizja has changed what he's throwing. Not nearly as many fastballs; lots of sliders and Cutters, Cooper style. Cooper needs to go right along with Ventura. Sox should make him the QO offer.

Don Ventura sacrifices the team's second to best hitter, to take the bat out of the hands of the team's best hitter. He can't think a move ahead.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 07:23 AM) This is such a typical statement from you. A 2nd round pick drafted out of high school, a 7th round pick and a 17 year old Venezuelan kid signed for minimal money turned into 3 major league players. That's a win. A utility infielder for a second round pick is not a win. It doesn't matter whether it's high school or college. That said I'm not convinced these guys are just utility infielders. People around here have a tendency to give up after six months of seeing a player play. A young player that is. I have no problem putting those two at second and short for next year. Although it should start right now every day.

Sox AZL champs!!!

It's call-up season, so who does Ventura/Cooper put into the lineup? Gordon Beckham, everybody! But no call-ups.

Leury did a little better this year offensively. Don't see a problem playing him. Sox paid $6 million for 2 horrendous utility infielders this year, so just as soon give him some work. they'll need a SS next year as well. It would be nice, however, if Ventura would actually consider playing the call ups.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 03:17 PM) He stands next to Joe Maddon. That should make him a clone. Why do so many people think this way? Look at your places of employment and look at the better employees and their assistants. Are there assistants just like them? Hell no. Dave Martinez has interview countless times for a managerial job, including the TB Rays where, if he was Maddon's clone, would have been the perfect place for him to start his managerial career. He never gets the job. Why? Anyone who thinks Robin lacks emotion would quickly realize he is the Tazmanian Devil compared to Dave Martinez, who is basically Harold Baines personality wise. That's probably why he hasn't been hired. But good managers higher good people below them. Ventura's issues have nothing to do with his stoicism (which I think is a plus). As for Thome and Konerko...they'd probably be better than Ventura (not a high bar to achieve that) but they are similarly inexperienced.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 11:32 AM) I don't think anything big (like trade Chris Sale) will happen either because the Sox are still in the mind set that they can compete next year. Trading Chris Sale does not let you do that. That's just not true. If the Sox got 3 quality young players for him who could produce right away, the Sox would be a better baseball team. Teams win without aces (and Rodon may be that anyway). And the Sox certainly have proven that they can lose with the best of them with Sale.

There are three pieces to Sale's value: his quality as a pitcher, his cheap contract in terms of dollars, and the number of years. The problem with dealing with the Dodgers or Red Sox is that the cheap contract doesn't mean that much to them. To get full value you would have to look at teams for him that would mean a lot such as the Astros, Royals, or pirates, or even the Cardinals. I don't know that those systems are strong enough. The The Dodgers are Red Sox may be willing to take contracts as part of the value but I don't think that really Sox much and hopefully that's not what the Sox would be looking for. As for Quintana, I'm just not sure how big that haul would be

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 07:28 PM) He reminds me of Davidson. He's worse than Davidson

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 04:25 PM) Why does Coop get a pass on White Sox starter 1st inning problems? He shouldn't. He also shouldn't get a pass on producing only one staff in the top 1/2 of MLB in ERA in 7 seasons. He also shouldn't get a pass on his handling of the bullpen, and his status as Robin's mentor/shadow-manager, and Williams' mole.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 09:01 AM) Carroll, both Johnsons, Brantly and Leury. Probably Beck if Putnam isn't going to come off the DL as soon as he's eligible. I'll go with all of those but Carroll. No point in bringing up AAAA players.

QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 03:22 PM) They sent the manger away. They lacked one then too. He was better early in his career. Really haven't had a good one since Torborg. Don't want the fossil from the Twins either. Modern thinking, please.