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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 05:49 PM) Can Fulmer be traded? If we're trying to avoid things from the big league squad, Micah + Fulmer + Anderson + Montas could be close. If not then it's a price the Sox wouldn't do (Rodon/Quintana). 2014 OPS: .724 2015 OPS: .752 Adam eaton OPS 2015: .751 Tyler saladino OPS 2015: .746 Longoria is 30. He's not the same player. H How is this anything but hero-worship.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 05:33 PM) That package would be for both Ross and Upton. Could still be too much but I'm just a fan with an opinion. Reddick is my #1 target for a hitter but I like the idea of getting Tyson Ross as well. Problem ks, getting those two would clean the farm pretty good. Reddick is purely a platoon hitter. Hits lefties worse than Laroche. For the price of a platoon, fine. Tyson Ross would be a good pitcher here.....but that seems more of a December trade, unless you are going to move Shark as part of the deal.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 05:26 PM) I'm curious about what a package would look like. Avi, Erik Johnson, Micah Johnson + ? For 2 months of a .763 OPS that's a fair exchange? He's not a superstar....not even close. He's a good hitter...that's all. Maybe 1 of those guys, if that. Adam Eaton has a .751 OPS....he's under control until 2021. What could we get for him? 10 x that price?

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 05:15 PM) Put this in the Soria thread, but I have a feeling that we are in a 3-team trade with the Pirates and Tigers involving Soria, Sellers, and Cespedes. So who would come from the Pirates to the Sox or vice-versa to warrant 3 teams?

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 05:00 PM) Just got an ESPN alert on my phone: "White Sox confused about whether to be buyer or seller at trade deadline - league source" That must be a really s***ty league source. I can understand that - it's not an easy call. Or it could be Hahn = Sell; Williams = Buy. Solution = stand pat.

No one's going to have to empty the farm, or trade a top 100, for 2 months of these hitters. I hope we get neither - don't give up young players for a slim chance at a wild card. I'd rather trade Shark and roll with Johnson and we'd probably not take much of a step back. But of the 2, would far prefer Upton. Don't need any of these "I won't play RF" guys on team. Cespedes has a career OBP of .316. And don't want to send a player to Tigers.

The Knights facing the Finnegan of Johnny Cueto fame.

Nice

Charlotte is short of infielders. Maybe Micah's injury will keep him out a while.

Josh Reddick is another guy who is absolutely atrocious against lefty pitching. He is a platoon hitter . He's also having a career year. Whether he can repeat it is far from a sure thing. Lawrie - well he would add to the team's tat collection. Revere is Shuck Pitch framing is absolutely a legitimate skill.

QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 12:37 PM) This trade would be immediately followed by a press release announcing Rick Hahn's resignation/firing. yep

QUOTE (BamaDoc @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 10:57 AM) San Diego looking to save some money. Kemp plus cash (LAD paying 3+ per year) SD pays additional 8 mill in 2017 and 18 and takes Danks. Danks due 15 million plus next year makes up difference for rest of this year and 2016. Danks could succeed in that ball park. Kemp doesn't really have split differential plays right. Avi platoons at dh with La Roche. Johnson comes up from AAA to take Danks spot. We don't lose any prospects and last years of Kemp may not be pretty but if our cost is 10 per not bad. Last couple years could even be lhp dh after LaRoche gone I like the thinking to get someone on the cheap...but his OPS is a miserly .713 and his D is pretty bad these days. I saw a suggestion for a flip of Ethier + cash for Danks. Same kind of deal (Ethier having a better year, but been bad since June).

QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 10:43 AM) but the rumors before we got AJ was all bad, but when he was on the team, he was good.... so why not the same with Gomez??? Well for one thing AJ was brought in at the beginning of the year; not in the middle when the chemistry and clubhouse are all set. And the Sox did a lot of due diligence on AJ. And honestly with laid back Ventura, we do need players who will behave, listen to the coaches, respect the coaches, etc.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 10:52 AM) Is Cespedes a Free Agen my after this season? yes

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 07:03 AM) If the Twins finish over .500, I'll be surprised. The road trip to NY, Bal, and TB will be their big test. The Twins actually lead this thing and are reputed to have a deep farm. They apparently aren't even trying for any pitching help. If they don't get any help, the competition will be the Orioles and Jays.

Zero moves. But if any good player is traded it will be Micah Johnson.

I hate to see Cleveland make good moves.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 10:13 AM) When healthy CarGo is a superstar. .753 OPS away from Coors Field. Superstar? And Gomez is not having a good year. People want to pay the price for Gomez at his 2013-2014 value, ignoring 2015 and 2007-2011. The price to pay for either of these guys is 2 years of a .750 OPS. plus a little more for Gomez' defense and more favorable contract.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 08:59 AM) It is time the Sox started thinking more about defense and less about the future of Avi's hitting abilities. Giving up 2 defensive liabilities and a current fireballing starter but projected reliever isn't bad at all . I'd only offer Montas and Micah first. Or Avi and Montas depending on who the Brewerrs like more. I have stuck up for Avi as much as anyone here but a talent like Gomez is hard to pass up at his salary and for next year too. Avi is a hole right now no matter how good you think his future could be. You don't need to trade that much to get 2 years of a .751 OPS in the outfield that can play good defense. If that's the brewers price, find another player. Heck the Jays got 4 years of Tulo (far better player than Gomez) for that kind of price. Wait until December and find another Eaton type trade. Micah is raking in AAA...trade him to a team that has excess OF prospects. Or he alone for Gomez.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 07:35 AM) GreenSox is so big on prospects that he never lets the facts get in the way when he posts. So he's having a good season? That's the fact that you claim I misstated?

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 08:58 AM) 3 of the guys are top 100 prospects: Jake Thompson - 60 Nick Williams - 64 Jorge Alfaro - 69 The other two are in the 20's in the Rangers system. And Matt Harrison used to be a top of the rotation pitcher, and may return to that, and can be slotted into the rotation right away. I think it's a pretty damn good return. I agree. And the other 2 are pretty interesting prospects in their own right. Some of these teams (esp Astros) have really deep farm systems. I like our top 11, but those guys are 25-30 deep.

QUOTE (Dizzy Sox @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 07:18 PM) In 111 professional innings covering 2 years, Brian Clark has allowed exactly 1 home run. Not too shabby... I see 4 Home runs. Lots of Ks, but he walks too many. Looks promising, though. QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 08:17 AM) you do got a point, but the results are too incontinent.... the sox already has corrol. Incontinent? Freudian slip, lol? He's better than Carroll if he could be more consistent. Cooper likes him.

Gomez is 30 with an OPS .751. What exactly is that worth? Top prospect? Not in my opinion. Avi is 24 and I don't get the zeal to dump him. Gomez is worth Avi but certainly not Avi and the top prospect like Adams or Montas. Maybe you throw in a 10 to 15 rated prospect. Or better yet use a 15 to 20 rid of prospect get a situational hitter like the angels got.

Noesi - Dick Dotson fixed him.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 11:38 PM) Prospects alone you're right wouldn't land Puig we would have to work a three way out to get LA a pitcher and a combo of our prospects and theirs going to another team and us landing Puig. Same with Cespedes. Why the same with Cespedes? He's a rent...can't give up much for him anyway. I certainly hope no one thinks he and his .321 OBP is "elite". I guess a Shark-Cespedes swap is okay, except that we'd lose the comp pick. Trouble with AJP is his personality...it worked well in 2005, and while he was on the team I suppose...but it hasn't worked on all of his subsequent teams and that would be a risk especially with Ventura.