GreenSox

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 12:50 AM) Here's a fun fill in the blank game: LAD gets: Cole Hamels CHW gets: Yasiel Puig PHI gets: ????? Excluded from options to fill in the blank: Sale, Quintana, Rodon, Robertson, Eaton, Abreu, Adams, Anderson, Fulmer I don't think this is feasible, is it? Considering that Hamels is on the Rangers, I would say not feasible.

If you're going to trade for Puig (or anyone) you can't do it on prospects alone. That would clean out our system. And in case people haven't noticed, this team is under .500. Puig makes us, what , a little above? You'd have to throw Shark in there. Something to temper the prospect toll. And if for Puig, Avi as well. Better yet, Quintana, so wait until the offseason. Cargo - outrageous contract, he doesn't hit lefties well, inflated Coors field numbers. If you want a hitter, I'd get Bruce. Ks are bad, but his splits are fine, and you may get him at a reasonable price. Do a 3-way using Shark, and take your chances on Erik Johnson.

He's 30, age of decline. Too expensive in terms of prospects. Sox don't need a CF. he's signed for only another year. And if people would look at numbers, and not reputation, they would see his OPS is a modest .761 this year...the decline may be under way.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 05:17 PM) But you need the Rays to actually be motivated to move him for a reduced price. Do you see them doing that? I sure don't. Jose Abreu is way down from last season but if you want to trade for Jose Abreu, the White Sox would demand the kind of price you'd pay for a 40 HR guy right now because that's who he might be next year again. So you don't trade for him. You find value. Even if Longoria was Longoria, I wouldn't understand the hero worship. You need 5 starters, 5 members of the bullpen and 8 position players plus DH. The Sox are, what, a .500 team? So what would a vintage Longoria do...turn us into WS contenders? Of course not. He'd add maybe 2 or 3 wins through the end of the season. You trade all of the top tier prospects for that? (it's not like he was ever a Trout or Harper). It doesn't make any sense to want to go "all in" on these players. If you want one, you draft him or you trade for him before he reaches hero status. Build the team. Look at the Pirates - pick up the C for a middle reliever; get their SS/3B cheap on the international market. They have 1 great player that they drafted. They made savvy moves. Sox have made a couple too, like Abreu and Quintana (didn't draft well until recently though, and I still suspect the Sox drafts are 2nd division in quality).

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 02:05 PM) Rodon? Not sure if Fulmer + Anderson + Montas does it. Oh come on. Longoria's value is way, way down. Elite? Not anymore. Not even in Cameron's top 50 (Quintana is, what, #30?) This kind of stuff is beyond belief. Does anyone even look at his numbers? Not only is he way down this season, he was way down last season.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 04:52 PM) Guess I'm thinking that as bad as Ethier's contract is, he's still worth more than Danks. How about we get a prospect instead? There ya go! But would warrant some cash from Dodgers. He's having a good year, but since June, his OPS is right around .700....nothing special. It's a monetarily expensive risk for ($38 million for 16 and 17, incl buying out 18).

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 04:31 PM) I would take on Ethier's contract in exchange for Danks + prospect. Not sure the Dodgers would. I like that idea - except for the prospect part. We're taking the worst of it money wise.

Where would the Sox be without 2 utility infielders.

That comp balance pick is a nice fit with a trade for a rent, as it somewhat offsets the QO pick the other team will lose. Can't just deal prospects for Puig. Gotta throw a vet in there like Shark and Avi so as to not loot the farm system. Or better yet, don't trade for him.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 12:42 AM) Radio guys in this town know nothing about the White Sox system. I think White Sox are somewhere between like 16-23 as far as systems go. I agree. But 3 in the top 65 isn't bad. Law had us 10-15 last January.

Who the heck is Darrell Horowitz? I trust he's not a legitimate member of Chicago's media.

They'll probably DFA him. If they do...why not?

Nieto would be in the White Sox top 100. Keep him around for a couple of more years...see how he does. Disappointing this year, at least offensively. 3 prospects in the top 65 is pretty strong improvement. And that doesn't include the 2 ML ready Johnsons. Keep on building.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 11:03 AM) Odd that the Dodgers would trade for another outfielder when they have so many already. Latos makes sense but Morse? They took that terrible contract instead of giving better prospects and to get the comp balance pick. Morse has negative value: his contract cost exceeds his playing value (by a lot)....like being underwater on a car note. Other negative value players: Adam Laroche, Starlin Castro

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 11:11 AM) It really is remarkable that they entered this road trip 42-50, and sonofab****, they might just come home 50-50 and in it for the duration. Playing what-if, they could easily have gone 3-3 instead of 1-5 on that post all star game homestand.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 10:35 AM) You're overvaluing him by a bit. The only way he's top 100 is if he has a Billy Hamilton-esque ability to steal 75+ bags. All signs as he has advanced to the AA/AAA level is that he's probably closer to a 30-45 type. The other problem is Hamilton was going to get a lot of his value defensively, but Micah's giving up a lot of WAR points so it has to be made up offensively, just like with Avi. Not at all. Hamilton had a sub .700 OPS in AAA ball. Micah is in the mid .800s. His hit tool has blossomed big time this year. i wouldn't mind trading him for a similar level 3B prospect. But not for some Cargo who can't hit lefties.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 09:51 AM) I like the idea of bringing up Kottaras. Light a fire under LaRoche by letting Soto DH some vs LHP. Plus, you don't really need another infielder to replace Bonifacio given that Saladino and Sanchez can both play 2B/SS/3B. Bonifacio's flexibility was more necessary back when Gillaspie and Johnson were on the roster. Of course, they could let Soto DH some. He's our 2nd to best hitter.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 09:14 AM) Rodon is only on pace for around 160 innings. He should not be really be too restricted the rest of the way. If we make the playoffs, we have an incredibly strong front 3 and a 4th starter isn't really needed in the playoffs. Does that include his minor league innings?

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 12:00 AM) Is something wrong with Jennings? No there isn't. He also had an effective long relief outing a week or so ago. Thatcher's strictly situational. Do not need. BTW, our bullpen's pretty good.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 07:52 AM) Right now, being that the overwhelming odds are against the White Sox winning the division, they shouldn't be sending away top prospects for bats unless those bats are going to be around for a while. I am not a big fan of CarGo. Of course he is hot right now, but he will cool off, and as was stated above, if you don't like LaRoche vs. LHP, you aren't going to like CarGo. Only take CarGo if you give up no top 7 or 8 prospects. For some reason, I don't think the Rockies would go for that. Agree 100% QUOTE (shysocks @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 09:27 AM) *starts Jay Bruce chant* Prefer him to Cargo, but same issue really: Sox aren't in a position to trade top prospects and neither he nor Cargo are worth top prospects.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 09:19 AM) I think they are going to let Micah tear up Charlotte some more and trade him in the offseason. Well I agree with you here. Pity, really. He's easily a top 100 prospect and just the kind the Sox will undervalue. Infield is showing promise, but still no sense that either Saladino or Sanchez are major league starter quality in the long term. I could see another trade Chris Young keep Anderson situation

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 09:04 AM) Where is Micah going to play? He can play some 2nd; play some DH. What's the downside? Lose a month of defensive development - okay, but it's worth the upside of having a good hitter on board who can actually steal a base (in contrast to Bonifacio who was inept at it).

How many utility infielders to Cooper/Ventura need? Beckham is enough. Bring up Micah. the problem with Jones is that he has exactly TWO strikeouts in 14 innings of work.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 08:39 PM) Why in the world do you think CarGo is going to cost a boatload of prospects? A)just going by what people suggest to pay hereon; and b)when have the Sox NOT paid a boatload of prospects for a player like that? Re the merits of getting Cargo a)Lemon is right about Adams; b)Coors field c)30 years old

QUOTE (kwill @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 11:40 PM) I know everybody is talking about adding another bat but one quick fix would be bring up Erik Johnson up and putting Danks in the pen. Danks will probably not average a 4.50 ERA the rest of the way. Lets see if Johnson can give us something better out of the 5th slot. That's a good idea. And bringing up the other Johnson, Micah, needs to be done as well. We could improve by using what we have. No heroes, though, so many won't be happy.