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SS and C, which are defense-first positions, covered at minimum use of resources. You can get offense from OF at much less cost, They've played this right thus far, given the limited resources.

Yes, Collins and Burdi over Lux and Smith. The braintrust. Lux as a Cease headliner (how would he not be, at 3 fWAR, bizarre as it is) would be a really poor use of resources.

The Sox rebuild failed because they had zero prospect depth. In a touch of irony, perhaps that explains the reluctance of the Orioles and Reds: "We don't want to be like you." I think this ends up with the Dodgers who have prospects at the "use them or let them rot on the vine" stage. Maybe the Braves, Mets or Padres. A more mature team.

Agree This doesn't need to be for the Dodgers convenience.

Right - they've had a bad approach since the beginning. That was a KW thing, popularized by Ozzie; Hahn was too much of a cuck to do anything about. They've done what they've done with a bad approach - doesn't explain last year's collapse. The only exception might be Moncada - he got worse when they started beating on him about called Ks. I have heard Barfield talk about a better approach.

Assuming MLB rankings are reasonably accurate, the Dodgers don't have an elite prospect and really none in that next category either. Their top is #43. And their prospects are older. I don't expect an elite prospect for Cease, but I would think we'd need some volume from the Dodgers for it to work, especially if they hold back their #1 and #2, as teams want to do.

While there's a certain degree of rabbit's foot rubbing to expect these players to improve, it's not like these players were past-their-prime veterans who could have been reasonably expected to have down years. The Sox had an inordinate number of dog years from players who should be in their prime. The young players didn't progress a lick (and some regressed). I think it's reasonable to expect some improvement from the incumbents in 2024.

Sweeney slides in as Dodger prospect #18, per MLB.com If he's someone we want, we should be able to make a deal with them pretty easily.

I will agree that there is some sunshine pumping on the defense, it’s not really coming at the expense of offense. We had no offense at second shortstop and catcher.

Sox will be good defensively up the middle. That's something. I'd really like to see a young OF.

If it keeps the team off of Perez, this is a big win.

Cashman v. Preller is a pretty good matchup in prospect-wits. Preller isn't afraid to trade his prospects, but he's really good at finding them (which may be the reason he's willing to trade them).

Sounds good to me

I think this is it, but I didn't hear a direct jab at KW; maybe when he talked about "trust." https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/video/getz-on-white-sox-recent-moves?t=t145-default-vtp

In most cases, the Sox would have been a lot better off if Hahn hadn't pulled off his work. If they're trying to take advantage of Getz, he's not letting them.

The other thing I like about this is that someone competent actually saw him pitch and can articulate a reason for his improvement. Other than his Pedro affectation, I like what I've seen out of Getz. Miles ahead of his predecessor.

I think it's worth the risk, too. Much better than $12 Mill to Marco.

Could be. If that’s the case, just hold on to him for a year and a half, then package with a reliever in July ‘25 and we can get that return. That’s basically what we got for rents of Lopez/giilito.

I am not convinced that a decliner coming off injury like Gonzales is market value $12 million, but even if he is you can get that on the free agent market so it really shouldn’t be any part of the return. reminds me of trading for Nova.

I’d take Kelenic as a throw-in. Need an outfielder, he could improve. And it’s a chance to right a wrong!

Gonzalez is a #5 except for that one fluky 2020, and getting worse and is paid a lot. Why would the Braves want anything to do with him? Why would we want anything to do with him?

I get the Benintendi angst, but Moncada will be here for 1 more year, they don't have anyone else at the position, and it's not all that unlikely that he has a decent year. I suspect that any savings from moving him will go into JR's wallet and the Sox will pay for it prospect-wise. Looks to me that the Braves just reloaded their spare parts, after sending a bunch to the Sox.

Braves actually sent Seattle a decent pitching prospect for that pile of junk

Those teams from 2000 - 2005 were loaded with talent, and they still needed some "blindly falling" to win it. This team will need a miracle...or Getz to be a great GM, which I suppose would be a miracle.

Well so much for that idea I just like the idea of getting some more immediate help. I fear a complete rebuild turning into the perpetual Pirates