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QUOTE (oldsox @ May 29, 2015 -> 10:46 PM) Gordo at $2mm per is still one of the ten worst contracts in MLB. Where does $3 mill* for Bonifacio rank then? + an option at the bargain price of $4 mill, with a $1 mill buyout

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 29, 2015 -> 02:47 PM) Samardzija will have value, but nowhere near the amount of value to get anything in the neighborhood of Addison Russell. Even if he rebounds, he's a pending free agent now, and he's the third best option on the market. Yes, but the good thing is that #s1 and 2, Cueto and Hammel, will command an Addison Russel...thus, Samardzija is #1 in the affordable category. Should be something around a Peavy return. As for SS, we could play Garcia or maybe even Saldino there (he's playing SS in Charlotte, for a reason I would presume).

He stroke seems more compact. Maybe the Angels corrected than in that 6 weeks he was there.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 29, 2015 -> 11:03 AM) I know Carroll doesn't have any ceiling to speak of, but he has done great work in his time as a middle and long reliever. I wouldn't have thought it before, but I am willing to keep running him out there until he proves otherwise. 1.55 WHIP 3.6 K/9 Just as soon give someone else a shot.

Junior Guerra has been the most productive pitcher at AA or AAA this year. Those high K totals suggest maybe his is a late, late, late bloomer.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 29, 2015 -> 10:24 AM) I was referring to the Addison Russell trade as the universally accepted overpay. I don't think we overpaid for Samardzija at all. We didn't overpay, but it was still not a good decision for a 73 win team to trade for a rent QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 29, 2015 -> 09:50 AM) For a year an a half of a pitcher pitching much better. We're selling a worse version for just a couple months. And everyone in the world thought that was an overpay in the first place. It's not a worse version; he never was an ace. He got off to a bad start, but in another couple of weeks his numbers will be near identical to what they were with the Cubs. It's just 1 year less on the contract. I certainly wouldn't sign him for the numbers bandied about. I think we can get more value than a comp pick is worth. Alexei needs to get his act together. I never expected him to replicate last season (which is why he should have been moved in December) but putting on clown shows really depresses value. I like Laroche and think he has a lot of value; I also think we cannot go through another season with both Garcia and Cabrera in the OF, so one of those guys can DH. If no one will pay his value, keep him. Are we going to get elite prospects for these guys? No. But we have a hard time finding basic competence at positions, so we might be able to really improve.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 28, 2015 -> 03:15 PM) Doug Padilla ‏@ESPNChiSox 2m2 minutes ago Scott Carroll optioned. Chris Beck added to the roster for Game 2. It's about time. Plenty of pitchers having good years in Charlotte - see what they can do.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ May 3, 2015 -> 06:58 PM) Maybe Ramirez, LaRoche, Bonifacio, Samardzija, etc just to name a few. Who do you think the Sox will trade if they decide to sell? Plenty Laroche (Cardinals) Samardzija (numerous teams). Alexei Duke All would bring value Sign samardzija in the offseason if we want (although he isn't an ace) QUOTE (StRoostifer @ May 28, 2015 -> 09:11 AM) Trading Shark and/or Alexei will not replenish the farm, they just do not hold that kind of value. The only way is for the Sox to entertain the idea of trading one or more of their core players which I doubt happens. Like I said, just have to ride it out and see what winter brings. They absolutely would bring value. "rebuild the farm" of course not. Value? Yes. Waiting until winter further diminishes value - there are contenders now who need a SS.

Good gracious, if he's good, there's plenty of room for him in this organization. Lord help we actually have 2 outfielders or some depth.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 26, 2015 -> 07:51 PM) Tried getting him to qualify for win. Should have never let him face Donaldson again. He's given up 6 runs - let's make sure he gets that hard-earned win.

The pen is rested. Same nonsense as last year - Ventura refuses to pull Danks until he implodes.

Absolutely do NOT fire Steverson. He's the only non-insider on this staff. He uses a modern approach. It's not his fault Kenny loads this team with stiffs. He got a lot out of the younger players like Abreu, Eaton (at least last year) and Avisail this year. Gillaspie improved too. Get rid of Bell. And let Hahn handle all personnel.

What was that, 6 pitches to get through the 9th? Throws a complete game with less than 90 pitches. And our hitting coach is a take-pitches and walks philosophy. Something's not right.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 25, 2015 -> 06:22 PM) I was definitely one of Surkamp's bigger fans but I think it's silly to make any judgement on the return. Unless you saw something I didn't there's next to no information on Smith as a pitcher. Surkamp's ceiling was very limited, who knows what Smith's is. At best Smith's a bullpen pitcher. Most likely an org guy. Sox have Noesi, Carrol, and Danks taking up space. Should try some of these AAA guys.

Q and Sale should be split in the rotation- I don't know why they aren't. And I know it's not Carroll's fault, but none of the guys in Charlotte are better than him? The problem with this org in trading is that they refuse to sell high. They got a gift last year with the 32 yo SS off of a near career year and they refused to pull the trigger.

They also lead the majors in homers, and by a mile. (on a side note -- a certain other team is tied for 28th).

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ May 23, 2015 -> 12:18 AM) People hate his mechanics and delivery and size, but the fact of the matter is he led the NCAA in K's and was dominating out there all year long. Sox have had a good recent history with funky pitchers that work. One: Sale. And he is tall and his delivery isn't nearly as funky and he wasn't as hard used. I can see it if we were getting a bargain -- picking 15th or something. The Sox haven't drafted a developed college hitter* with its #1 choice since Beckham. And he was rushed of course, but at least he's still in the game. *Mitchell was high-school raw when drafted.

The Sox have 4 starters throwing very well in Charlotte call one or two of them up

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 22, 2015 -> 10:03 AM) Those are reasons for me why I'd actually like to see them do it. The team is quite good at this exact path. Well you have a point there...it's the one development technique they do well.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ May 21, 2015 -> 12:26 PM) Keith Law has the White Sox taking Fulmer. http://chicago.suntimes.com/baseball/7/71/...g-draft-insider Pass. Bad mechanics, hard used.

Laroche was a good signing - only 2 years, he can play defense, and didn't give up a draft choice. Melky on the other hand... Could have used that Shark package (or some of it) and brought and outfielder or 2 in here.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 22, 2015 -> 06:13 AM) It has been a long time but Crede and Rowand were pretty good. Crede realy had just blossomed. He was hitting over .300 with 30 homer gold glove defense when his back gave out in September of 2006. As far as rushed, I don't know if guys are really all that rushed. If the Sox send guys down like Josh Fields in 2008, Saladino and Sanchez this spring, many here complain. But something is wrong. But hitters leaving the organization going on to others and being really successful also is very rare, so it seems to be talent evaluation. That's true but the real problem with rushing isn't that they don't produce in the ML when first up - it's that they don't produce in the ML and develop bad habits to try to compensate their weaknesses while not producing. Johnson was rushed, but he didn't seem to develop bad habits so he should be okay; I think Rodon is being rushed - we'll see; Beckham was rushed. I think they knew that Semien could hit- just willing to trade him to rent Shark for whatever reason. And, yes, talent is no doubt the biggest issue.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 20, 2015 -> 09:41 AM) If Semien's legitimately an 800+ OPS guy at even 2B (compared to SS), it's going to hurt, because Johnson and Sanchez are unlikely to come remotely close to that. If he's more of a 675-725ish guy (typical for that position now, unless you're Altuve/Cano/Kinsler/Kipnis), it won't quite be the end of the world because his defensive shortcomings will largely erode his positive value. Of course, it also is dependent on what we eventually get in return for Samardzija. That's how it stacks up. Of course if he is an 800+ OPS guy, you could still play him in the outfield and exceed most of what we have there. I'm not convinced the Sox will trade off assets even if we're realistically out of it unless our record is terrible, which I doubt it will be.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 19, 2015 -> 03:46 PM) Chris Cotillo ‏@ChrisCotillo 24m24 minutes ago #Astros have scouted Jeff Samardzija, who may become available at the deadline: http://sbnation.com/e/8390668?utm_campaign..._source=twitter … See where we are in 6 weeks. If playoffs is a longshot then, we can make some major moves toward 2016 by moving both him and Alexei.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ May 19, 2015 -> 10:54 PM) Sox need a catcher in the worst way. Not another one who can't hit, though.