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Let's get this game. No way the Brewers have a pen.

2 good outings in a row for Drabek, each with good K numbers. May be getting close to coming back up and taking some starts. Can't be any worse than most of these guys. Jordan Guerro- wow. Must be near time for the Dash, yes?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 11, 2015 -> 07:53 PM) I was one of Semien's biggest fans on this site, but it's impossible to judge the trade until after the season. First, we need to see if Shark signs an extension and for how much. If not, we need to see what we end up getting for him, whether it's prospects via trade or a comp pick. Second, it's way to early to draw any conclusions on Semien as a major leaguer, although I obviously believe in his bat. Extension? If he pitches like this we should not only not extend him but we won't get a draft choice for him. If he improves, we may be able to mitigate the losses. But even in his good games this year, he's really labored. The idea of a 73 win team to trade for a 1 year rent was nuts to begin with. (not as bad as Williams trading our top pitching prospect for 1.5 years of a pitcher with a 6+ ERA). Fortunately we didn't trade anyone with that high a ceiling. And this one, of course, was the same demographic as we've seen over and over...some NL pitcher that the Sox get all goo-goo over.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 11, 2015 -> 08:40 AM) I read this twice, and can't decide if it's serious. You want Rondon over Alexei right now? Alexei is one of the best defensive shortstops in the game, and while his bat is inconsistent he's still overall at least average offensively and probably a little better in the long term. And you want to replace that with ab A-ball guy with raw but interesting defense and no history of any ability to hit? I like Rondon, but that's just getting way too aggressive. How's L Garcia been doing defensively in Charlotte? I assume he's still overmatched at the plate against any good pitcher. Realistically, if the Sox want to improve in areas (like C or 3B) they're going to have to move a good player at least this offseason. And if we aren't in contention in July, by then. Alexei is at the top of that list, so I'm interested in possible replacements.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 9, 2015 -> 07:19 PM) So how are those holes going to be filled in between 2015 and 2016 when we have already committed over $120 million to our 2016 payroll assuming we pick up Alexei's option and most of the arb-eligible players? Unless we trade some people who are paid decently away we already have a greater committed salary in 2016 than what we have on the payroll in 2015, and that's with Samardzija walking. How are those holes filled when we have literally no money to spend as it currently stands? Have to trade some player in areas where we have depth and bring up a young player...like SS. Or maybe trade some of our "bounty" in ready prospects for a position where we are thin. And getting some of these pitchers who seem a year away will be helpful too. A lot of these guys seem like they are almost there but just can't find that last rung on the ladder. We're going to need a 3B and a catcher. But I think we're okay in the OF - let Gillaspie shag balls; he's a good hitter against righties and has good value there...nice bat for our bench.

If he can't throw 3 pitches he needs to be in AAA. The clowning on the basepaths needs to stop. How many runs did A Garcia's caught stealing cost this team? We started that inning off with 4 straight hits and scored 1 run. Keep Beckham in the utility role - that appears to have been a nice pickup. It's when he gets over-exposed that he gets into trouble.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 6, 2015 -> 11:32 AM) Why do you want the team's best player to have less plate appearances? So that he's more productive per plate appearance. So that Eaton can use his speed more...right now it's insane for Eaton to even try to steal a base with Abreu up in the inning. so that when Ventura decides he needs to bunt the 2nd hitter and play for 1 run with Danks pitching, he doesn't take the bat out of the hands of the 2nd to best hitter and reduce the potential productivity for Abreu. QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ May 6, 2015 -> 11:59 AM) The only lineup where Abreu should be batting #4 is one where you have three guys who reliably get on base 34+% of the time. Otherwise you are reducing his plate appearances for no good reason. Well, you're probably right about that. And that the Sox can't find 3 other hitters who can get on base a decent percentage is why this offense is horrendous. The one positive about the offense this season is A Garcia (if he would stop trying to steal).

Good to see Surkamp back in the rotation. I think he's better there.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 6, 2015 -> 11:00 PM) Maybe you should run all game next time. but Avi hit Alexei with the cutoff while a runner was going to 3rd and Alexei was able to throw out the guy rounding 1st base. Fundamentals, a White Sox specialty!

A Garcia may not walk much, but he's not a hacker either. he knows what he's doing. That was a nice hit he had.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 6, 2015 -> 04:30 PM) And a long line of White Sox pitching castoffs "fixed" by Don Cooper. Exactly how long a list is that really? And if you consider how many castoffs were fixed for more than a year, the list gets really short. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 6, 2015 -> 02:41 PM) Thompson didn't even get a September call up in a lost 2014 season. Has that much changed in a month of baseball? I doubt it. You're probably right, but this is an organization that has long preferred (as long as KW is in charge) utility level talent and declining veterans to young players with less than exemplary credentials. And that's been true even in lost years.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 6, 2015 -> 01:47 PM) Hope he clears. I don't know if he's ever been outrighted, but he is a lot better insurance in Charlotte than previous seasons' versions. Agree

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 5, 2015 -> 09:33 PM) Rondon 2014 as a RHH: .303/.352/.576 LHH: .220/.297/.242 2015 as a RHH: .389/.389/.667 LHH: .170/.290/.170 That doesn't include tonight's homer which came as a RHH. Time to ditch switch-hitting? One would think. Can't be any worse against right handers batting from the right side, could he? If all he had was those RHH numbers, he'd be a top 10 prospect.

Well, there's Robinson Leyer. Ugh

Non-stop clowning on the base paths is another trait of the Ventura era.

Anyone know the whereabouts of Robinson Leyer?

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 5, 2015 -> 01:33 PM) Here's Keith Law's updated top 100: It's insider content. As usual, let me know if you want the article. http://espn.go.com/blog/keith-law/insider/post?id=3896 Highlights: 1. Brendan Rodgers SS Lake Mary HS 2. Kevin Newman SS Arizona 3. Dansby Swanson SS Vanderbilt 4. Dillon Tate RHP UC Santa Barbara 5. Kolby Allard LHP Sam Clemente HS 6. Alex Bregman 2B LSU 7. Ian Happ OF Cincinnati 8. Garrett Whitley CF HS NY 9. Walker Buehler RHP Vanderbilt 10. Kyle Tucker Plant HS Tampa Bay, FL 11. Kyle Funkhouser RHP Louisville 12. Mike Nikorak RHP HS PA 17. Daz Cameron 16. Tyler Jay LHP Illinois 19. Mike Matuella RHP Duke 20. Nate Kirby LHP Virginia 26. Brady Aiken 30. Jacob Nix 39. Phil Bickford 44. Carson Fulmer 52. Justin Hooper LP De La Salle HS Good - several position players we could take.

yes, I think the lack of veterans who can't play is the problem with this team.

Lord help they shake up the lineup. Abreu belongs in #4 anyway.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ May 4, 2015 -> 04:36 PM) And he should have been moved a couple years ago. I just don't understand Hahn's direction here. It's like he invested a ton of money to go from really bad to just mediocre with limited upside. I'm generally pretty optimistic, but I just can't stand to watch a team that can't play defense. It's highly questionable that this is Hahn's direction. Williams rarely had a stout defensive team and when they did they peeled them away. Ramirez certainly should have been traded this offseason but the Sox don't sell high or reasonably high unless it's fruitless to do otherwise. Micah should get some outfield work and Sanchez should be up and Rodon down. Trade shark and alexei (once rehabilitated) and maybe even Quintana.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ May 4, 2015 -> 04:36 PM) And he should have been moved a couple years ago. I just don't understand Hahn's direction here. It's like he invested a ton of money to go from really bad to just mediocre with limited upside. I'm generally pretty optimistic, but I just can't stand to watch a team that can't play defense. It's highly questionable that this is Hahn's direction. Williams rarely had a stout defensive team and when they did they peeled them away. Ramirez certainly should have been traded this offseason but the Sox don't sell high or reasonably high unless it's fruitless to do otherwise. Micah should get some outfield work and Sanchez should be up and Rodon down.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 4, 2015 -> 02:12 PM) That's a good way of putting it. A lot of guys on here are coming out of the woodwork, making assumptions and losing their cool just looking for scapegoats to protect their golden boy. KW's fingerprints were all over the offseason moves. They look like Williams' philosophy, executed by Hahn, to me. ( how many times, how many times, has Williams loaded the Wagon for his "Ace" starter? ). The only really productive trade Williams made as GM since 2008 was for Youkalis. The only really top defensive team we've had was 2005; and then we gutted the defense. I don't know what Hahn can or can't do because I don't think we've seen it, other than the execution of the trades, which has been fine.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 02:40 PM) That is pretty much what he said about Sale. Delivery's worse than Sale; 1/2 foot shorter than Sale; much harder used than Sale; Sale wasn't picked in the 8th pick. And perhaps Sale and LIncecum are the exception And - a ML ready starter (and certainly not a bullpen pitcher) shouldn't be the priority anyway.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 4, 2015 -> 01:53 PM) Thankfully they only traded one player (Semien) that I think could be an average starting player in the majors. They also traded him from the only position of depth within in the system. Hahn did a very good job this past offseason of not trading away potential core players. Perhaps true, but the point is that forcing "going for it" in 2015 was silly coming off of a 73 win season. It also caused the Sox to do other things like putting together a poor bench...AGAIN so as not to risk young players, etc.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 4, 2015 -> 10:01 AM) http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-white-s...oming-decision/ I basically agree with the article. It was way premature to trade for rents.