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QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 9, 2015 -> 02:51 PM) I love Shark's enthusiasm in hitting Cain, but Cain was the star of this series. Worrying about a little showboating is just ridiculous. Get the minds right.

Ventura has to pull Danks earlier. Same thing was happening last year. Still in the game as Danks was eeking along and then wham. When he shows weakness in the 5th or 6th, yank hiim.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 8, 2015 -> 01:45 PM) There was a discussion in the game thread about starters. The average MLB team uses 10 starters in a season, as the Sox did last year, per Jeff. So, other than the CURRENT five, who are your guesses for the other 5-ish who will MAKE A START? I've added a poll too, but here are some names to consider (in order of most likely, IMO)... Carlos Rodon Scott Carroll Chris Beck Erik Johnson Brad Penny Mike Recchia Frank Montas Eric Surkamp Onelki Garcia Tyler Danish Montas and Danish are pushing it a bit given their development curve, but hey I could fit 10 in the poll, haha. I agree first 5. It would be nice if someone out of Beck or Johnson could develop as major league capable. Per a statistic I read, last year there were 76 relievers in MLB who averaged a K an inning. The Sox had zero relievers (who met the innings threshold) average a K an inning and only 1 overall and that was Cleto. That and based upon what I've seen so far, I think will see some of the bottom 1/2 in the pen. But there is young talent on this list and more in the deeper minors, so help is on its way, although it may not be for this year.

The Sox just didn't build this roster to really do a lot of platooning as of now. If they wanted to do that a)don't sign Melky; sign 2 versatile players who can hit from opposite sides of the plate; b)part of that could be to see if Gillaspie can play LF; c)keep Semien or get someone who can actually hit from the right side to play 3B. But Beckham is the best they could do for right now. d)perhaps don't sign Laroche and include DH in the platoon mix; That said, I like the idea of Beckham batting against only lefties. I realize his splits suck, but maybe, just maybe, if he concentrates just on hitting lefties, he can become competent at it. I'm not suggesting him in the lineup against every lefty or even against most. If Micah's on this team, let him play basically every day. I just don't think this is a finished product and I never have. And I don't think the Sox consider this to be a finished product.

The pen has been terrible. High pitch counts, too much action, no Ks. Ventura is the same amateur he's been for the last 3 seasons. But he's friend of JR and Williams and he's a hero, and that's what's important.

Shuck is the PH. LOL

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 7, 2015 -> 07:59 AM) Onelki Garcia???? He's on that Birmingham roster - kind of surprised me. Speaking of Bham, I'm looking for some growth from Myles Jaye this year. AA stymied him, but I think he'll improve.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 6, 2015 -> 09:24 PM) http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/lorenz...&ocid=yahoo If it was, Shark is an idiot. We were still in the game. Guys showboat- deal with it.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 6, 2015 -> 05:30 PM) Hopefully they don't treat Morales like a god all season and go after him. He's one of the worst hitters in the KC lineup. Exactly. Once again, we walk the inferior hitter to bring up the superior hitter.. Seen that before...to say the least. Okay it should have worked out fine. Still the wrong decision. Use your pen if you don't like the current L/R aspect.

Ventura LOL

Onelki Garcia had a good spring and was a late cut. May see him up. They obviously think Drabek has potential. I agree that they'll probably go through several arms. I will say I don't see the point of calling a player worthless, and then objecting to the criticism of, oh, say Danks' pitching.

I just want to reiterate that Danks' salary is a sunk cost and should be irrelevant to the decision one way or the other.

The Noesi situation is completely different. Noesi is someone that the Sox, primarily Cooper, had liked for a while. He was only 27. The day after we absolutely destroyed him as a Ranger, we not only claimed him, but immediately put in the rotation (he had been pitching out of the pen).

QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 4, 2015 -> 07:47 AM) i am not trying to be a smart arse or anything, but really, do you think that will happen?Oh, I don't know. I don't think they'll use the pen as a retirement home this year, so we should be safe. But then again, he was pretty bad in 2013, yet they picked up an expensive option option for him in 2014. And we saw Sox fav Wise go from "minor league depth" to taking starts in about a 2 week span in 2012 (and then signed for 2013 immediately after the season). you never know.

Sox brass loves their bad veterans. Lindstrom was rarely good, and usually terrible , on his Sox stints No harm as long as he stays in minors.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Mar 31, 2015 -> 03:49 PM) Why do we need to have Danks on this team while Rodon sits in AAA? Rodon needs to go to AAA for at least those 2 weeks, if not until he perfects his change. Can't answer the 2nd part - why we need to have Danks.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 30, 2015 -> 11:02 AM) Something else to consider is that Sox can effectively ruin Sanchez's value by bringing him up and having him sport a Darwin Barney-esque line. Sure he's a defense first guy but he can probably go down to Charlotte and put together another good offensive season. The bigger risk is ruining Johnson's value by rushing him.

Why cut Wilkins before Brantley?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 09:05 AM) Brantly probably isn't long for the 40 man roster either. I would agree. Not sure that M Johnson is penciled in either. Infield D needs to be tight.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Mar 28, 2015 -> 04:39 PM) Drabek was the player Toronto got when they traded Roy Halladay to Phillies. He pitched 7 innings so far this spring. And a tag line of 2 ER, 7 hits, 7Ks, 3BB and 1 HR. I have no idea of the circumstances or the velocity or anything. Still, not too bad

It is with heavy heart that I must admit that it's time for Cleto to move on. I still have good hopes for Webb...just needs more work.

Lindstrom was the worst regular pitcher in our pen last year...and by far. And he was pretty bad in 2013 as well.

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 28, 2015 -> 01:59 PM) yes, b/c of lack of catching in the minors system. that is the only reason. Well they could have come up with someone better. 2014 was a lost season from the start, so they just used a roster spot to cop a prospect from the nats.

So can Drabek pitch right now? If so, he's got 10 days to show something. Making this bullpen isn't exactly a high bar. If Johnson is showing defensive lapses, then send him down and play Sanchez. They are probably rushing him, if only a tad, anyway.

QUOTE (ChrisLikesBaseball @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 05:57 PM) Taijuan Walker has looked excellent this spring. If the White Sox didn't fancy themselves contenders, he'd be in the rotation getting experience. They fancy themselves contenders and he's likely to be in the rotation by June, if not sooner. And if he isn't, that likely means that both Danks and Noesi are pitching well, which would be a miracle.