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Outman was a 4+ WAR player last year. That’s just not realistic to expect him for Cease.

Sox need outfielders. Colas is the only real prospect, and he's on the Padro Sh list. Sox have Ramos, Montgomery and a bunch on the 40-man re infielders. Catching is really a defensive position and you can find those guys; a lot of the hyped catching prospects are hyped more for their hitting than their receiving. And of course, can always use pitching; but so can the Dodgers, so a bit leery of the pitching prospects.

How about an outfielder?

If not these specific players, players with similar profiles, would have been available for free. But as long as the Sox actually like some of these specific players - and this isn't like one of those grab-bags of stamps that I used to get as a kid, this is a fine return for Bummer. They do need to improve the ML team, and at the every least they'll get a SS out of this deal. The opportunity cost, which, I suppose, is a modest prospect with upside, is also modest.

The Soria acquisition was one of those 40-man deals; but then he dumped him for....Medeiros! Actually, each of Hahn's deadline deals this past August would fit easily into his top 10. He did a good job clearing out some riffraff in exchange for some legitimate prospects.

I forgot one: Swarzak was a pretty good scrap heap acquisition. Hahn then traded him at the deadline for....Cordell!

Hahn got one Cordell in a deadline trade when he had leverage. At least Getz got 5 of them. And none of Hahn's Cordells turned out to be any help at all. Maybe Evan Marshall was helpful for a while. Let's see if Getz can do better. The bar is low.

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And the Sox certainly have the room for it. A 100-win team’s trash is a 60 win team’s treasure. Might get a couple of nuggets out of this.

I thought that this was interesting. Cease worth 1 WAR alone just on holding runners.

Twitter Summary: Cardinals: Brendan Donovan plus a low-level prospect RedSox: Verdugo plus 2 low-level prospects Reds: India, straight up.

You're right. Too much protection takes away roster flexibility. I'll settle down.

Even shots in the dark are worth protecting more than some players on the 40 man. Haseley? come on.

Are they really keeping Foster, Cronin, Peralta et al; and both Romy and Remillard and AAAA Haseley on the 40 man? They don't have higher-upside players to protect? Or want room for higher upside players that others don't protect?

Just look at the list of pitchers. Who would be really missed? Scholtens is the best of the bunch. Maybe there's a name on there that I overlooked; and Tanner Banks, a personal favorite because he throws strikes, is on the list. The article talks about decisions on players like Sosa, but he should be protected way before this cast of characters. Tanner Banks Declan Cronin Matt Foster Deivi Garcia Edgar Navarro Nicholas Padilla Luis Patino Sammy Peralta Yohan Ramirez Jesse Scholtens Alex Speas

Since the end of the season, the following players have left: Grandal Anderson Thompson Frazier Andrus Shaw Urena Hendriks That's 8, and yet the 40 man sits at 35. Have they added players since the end of the season? Anyway, this 40 man is such that there should be 0% risk of losing a player with upside in the Rule 5 Draft.

Yeah, Cards fans want to send us Donovan, who can't hit lefties; and Reds fans India, who can't defend.

When the Pirates traded Cole to the Astros, Cole was a year or 2 removed from his peak in Pittsburgh. Still, they got a good haul on paper, although only Musgrove turned out to do anything (I think it was just him). Cease seems to be in a similar position.

He sure hops around a lot.

Brooks Boyer may be worse at his job than Hahn was. The org. simply doesn't care.

Open the wiki page of Butera or Rodriguez and what do you see? An image of a certain monarchal team that is also present in the resumes of all but 1 or 2 of the coaches.

Move him around; might shake him up. New look utility player. I don't see a problem with flexing Moncada. He'll be gone in a year anyway.

I have little interest in Merrifield being a member of the Sox, unless it prevents them from trading for Perez. Don't care about the money: it's the prospect cost for an aging negative WAR player. And there will be prospect cost with a rookie GM, and with a likely preference for KC to eat as much $$ as possible.

I'm warming up to this. Whit can provide the essential Royals leadership at less than 1/2 of the salary and none of the prospect cost that Salvador Perez would require.