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What's the back-story on Bassitt? Bad injury at some point?

QUOTE (QuickJones81 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 08:49 PM) Rodon, Montas, Adams, and Danish are exciting. We haven't had a collection of pitching talent like this in the system at once since 2000-01. Hopefully this group fairs better. And to think, not too long ago Erik Johnson was our prized pitching gem. Promising, but all A Ball and below. Take our time with them, please.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 07:12 PM) Yeah, maybe. Just going by Sale's minor league year. He skipped over Birmingham. Yea, but Sale wasn't represented by Boras. There will be no extension. Wasting the precious service time with bullpen pitching or in another Ventura lost September, is foolishness.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 06:54 PM) I still don't understand why Guerra wasn't the pitcher you bring in that situation, as statistically he has been better than pretty much anyone but Putnam the last couple of months. Oh, well. #drivetoprotecteddraftpick In the fury over the call, that aspect is missed - Belisario was basically the worst choice the Sox could have made.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 05:19 PM) As far as Rick Hahn goes, he's done one good thing in the last year or so, and that's Jose Abreu. (I'm not even going to give him credit for Rodon, because the Astros are 50% responsible for bungling that one). Other than Jose, there would be a tremendous amount of pressure on him to keep his job for 2015. Adam Eaton is injury prone (he will have missed about 25% of the games this season by the time he returns), and the jury's still out on Avisail Garcia (whether he can hit, play the field or keep from getting hurt). Matt Davidson has been a complete disaster. You can add that to Jeff Keppinger, Scott Downs, Paulino and Ronald Belisario. If Hahn had any cojones, he would DFA Belisario and admit that signing has been a debacle as well before the bullpen returns home to be murdered by the Blue Jays and Orioles power hitters. I agree - DFA Balisario. Every GM is going to have some minor misses; he had a lot of them, but they can be overcome. He also had a couple of big wins. His biggest blunder (and it may have been forced by Riensdorf and/or Williams) was signing Robin Ventura to a long term extension. Didn't want to risk another team stealing that high-end managerial talent from us?

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 05:00 PM) Nothing like putting your 5th best reliever in that spot. Incredible, isn't it.

It's hard to understand why Danks was called up. It's like the Sox have loyalty to these AAAA stiffs. Had to put up with the horrendous Wise for years, and this guy is his clone.

Another nice outing for my sleeper Kanny pitcher, Robinson Leyer.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Aug 11, 2014 -> 01:38 PM) Where is the math on this? What math? He's signed through 2016. They can't just Keppinger him - he still could rebound to have some value. That and he makes 4X the Salary Keppinger did. We don't have a lefty in the pen...put him there and see how it works out. They blew it in July. We were still in it!!!

The chance to dump Danks is long over. He's been pitching lousy for a month. Sox are stuck with him for 2 more years. Maybe the pen will work better.

Ventura's a terrible manager re strategy and he's cost this team several games. But they wouldn't be in the playoffs; and I'm afraid the last 7 weeks will attest to that (but I hope I'm wrong). I assume he's good with the players....that said, the team team has tanked in both of his years, and looks like they're working on a three-peat, so that may be a bad assumption as well.

To start Rodon's clock for Robin Ventura September mop-up ball would be ridiculous. He is precisely the player who should not be rushed. and you certainly don't waste his time as a bullpen pitcher. Surkamp is a strange send-back, with no other lefty available.

Every team lost tonight. It's amazing how the bad bullpen is not ust an issue with the major league team...the minor league teams can't hold leads either. Donnie Veal did was Donnie Veal does best.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 8, 2014 -> 12:49 PM) Cubs acquire Turner for 2 low A pitchers So low A pitcher don't have to clear waivers?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 10, 2014 -> 09:57 AM) How is it going to be possible to improve the offense and defense at the same time? Since Conor's one of our two or three bright spots this year, can we say his defense has been compensated enough by his offense...and what if he doesn't hit 315 again but he's at 255-275, then his lack of power becomes an issue again. Gillaspie also appears to really be a platoon hitter. Perhaps a really good one, but platoon. That's why I want to try him in the OF; a little difficult to platoon 3B (that and his D is poor) QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 10, 2014 -> 10:07 AM) Batting Leury Garcia leadoff should tell you all you need to know about Ventura. Yep.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2014 -> 01:01 PM) We'd be giving up Rodon +. Does that interest you? Not in the least.

What's the point of calling up Jordan Danks?

The team is just cracking. They played hard through July, but they couldn't keep it up. Now the studs like Quintana have also lost their mental edge. This happens. Just hope it's a short swoon.

Both the starting staff and the pen were extremely thin to start the year (especially the pen - the mediocre Lindstrom as one of your top 2 pitchers shows that it's a real weakness). What killed the pitching is that the 2 young starters (Johnson and Rienzo) went 360 degrees backwards in terms of player development. What the heck happened to those 2? Otherwise, it was still thin; Paulino was a bust, but he recouped with Noesi. And it's still rebuilding period. But with 2 young pitchers not only taking steps back - but looking like they'll never contribute again - it's a longer rebuilding job than first thought.

QUOTE (BaconOnAStick @ Aug 8, 2014 -> 12:13 AM) Every year you can squeeze out of Abreu, Sale and Quintana on these contracts should be used to compete. There is no reason to gaze longingly to the north side and their indefinite rebuild that is going to stretch the better part of this decade. Go for broke and try and put together a SS contender? Not necessarily. However this division is not getting stronger next year unless this Twins thing happens more rapidly than it should, no reason at all for the Sox to not make some moves to go for it. The problem is that to go for it, they need a #3 and #4 starter, 4 bullpen pitchers, including 2 upper level guys, a 2B, a LF, and DH. So that's 9 players; and if you can swing that, you are still left with zero depth, and infield that is questionable defensively. Sox just have a roster lacking talent.

It's tank time on the southside. And I'm not talking Viciedo.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 09:19 PM) Pablo Ozuna and Timo Perez lead off 36 times for a team that won a title. Yep - Ventura chooses to emulate one of the the worst features of a quality team.

None of those guys are tearing up AAA except for A Garcia and some of the AAAA outfielders. I don't see a major sense of urgency in moving JOhnson/Sanchez/Semien up - they can learn more in AAA.

I wouldn't put Anderson in his own tier, but I think he's a grade ahead of any other positional player we have.