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Ole Buck Martinez was commenting on how geared up Moises was to hit the Jays. Bam!

Sierra, Flowers, L Garcia...good lord, what a bottom of the lineup.

If you platoon intelligently, you can make an excellent player out of 2 mediocre players. I suspect we'll see more of that in MLB. And they've always had good pitching and been able to peddle it for nice returns when the pitchers hit their contract years.

I think Ventura charted it out well: Daryl Van Schouwen @CST_soxvan · 6h Relivers like having defined roles. "I'm sure they do,'' Ventura said. 'But the role is when you come in get some outs. It's pretty simple.'

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 28, 2014 -> 03:37 PM) Cubs are dumb even asking for that kid. If you want a talent like that for Samardizja you'll need to find one in A ball somewhere. Well then the Cubs are silly. Samardizja is having a great year, is a good pitcher, a 2 or a 3 depending on the year.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 28, 2014 -> 03:55 PM) I thought hitting a HR in the 1st inning does less for a hitter's Leverage Index than hitting one in the 9th inning? I'm no expert, but I always thought that to the SABRE guys, " a run is a run" no matter when it comes. I think you do need your best reliever, and certainly the one able to get the K, when you have runners on in late innings. You don't need your best for a clean 9th. That said, I also believe (and the SABRE guys disagree) that there is more pressure in the 9th and that some pitchers simply spit the bit in the 9th

L Garcia can play 2b, SS, 3b and outfield. He has speed. He's the kind of guy you want as your roster's last man (more useful than several we've had), although it would really help if he could hit at least some. we should have gotten more for Rios, but we really wanted Rios off the team.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 28, 2014 -> 03:27 PM) Robin actually trusted Putnam to get out of the inning on his own today. Wow. Maybe he is getting it, we'll see. If he pulls him for a lefty-on-lefty matchup next time out then Robin still hasn't gotten it. I don't know if it's good or not. What if he had trusted Bellasario last night. It's kind of a guess with this unproven bullpen and hard to fault one way or the other. But the right call was made, 2 in a row.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 28, 2014 -> 03:22 PM) No, you can't move other people to the DH spot during the game if they start in the field. Yea that's right. On another note, Toronto needs Beckham. I'll take Stroman for him!

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 28, 2014 -> 03:17 PM) Well, they already used Ramirez, Sierra could actually take over in the OF to give a defensive improvement, and Konerko is the only other one left on the bench. Why they waited until the counts as 1-1 is much more confusing to me. Couldn't they do that anyway? PR for Dunn, and move Viciedo to DH and Sierra to RF?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 28, 2014 -> 03:08 PM) Wow, nice! Putnam showed some stones. Ventura with a ton of good decisions. Here's one I don't get. Why PR for Viciedo instead of the lead-runner Dunn?

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 28, 2014 -> 03:06 PM) Even sabermetrics agrees with that. High leverage situations. High leverage situations = runners on base. The debate is using your best reliever to pitch a 9th with no one on; versus to pitch with 1 out in the 7th with 2 runners on.

I'm more interested in Micah replicating his good plate discipline at higher levels than steals. Baserunning >steals anyway.

I think we ought to see what teams will give for Quintana. Don't trade unless it's a big premium price, but I'd take a look.

Ventura's incompetent, but you may have to fire cooper too, unless he'd be happy going back to just being pitching coach. I suspect he's shadow manager.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jun 25, 2014 -> 08:47 PM) No reason to blame Putnam. Considering he faced 2 batters and got them both out, I would hope not. Hard to blame anyone Noesi probably shouldn't have started the inning. hard to blame Downs - he just sucks. Ventura picked a bad time to use him; he didn't use him against Mauer and he beat us.

Ackley could hit in college and the minors; Franklin hit in the minors. Ackley has 1700 ML at bats, has hit poorly, and plays an utterly replaceable position. Pass. You can make a case for Franklin, I suppose.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 25, 2014 -> 02:28 PM) The problem is though, none of the Sox prospects are close to a lock at being able to stay at SS. Saladino has played there the most but probably isn't an everyday MLB guy. Ackley could slide into LF next season and you can hope that a change of scenery and Severson can pull the tools that made him a big time prospect out of him. I would have no problem taking Ackley, Smoak, and Franklin back in a deal depending on what the Sox are giving up, they are all buy low candidates and if one of them can put it together you made a steal.And Franklin is lock? We have L Garcia to hit .220 and play SS. Why in the world would we want another one. I'd much prefer A or AA prospects over prospects that are well on their way to being failed prospects. Ackley? He can't hit either. We could put any of our prospects in the OF as well. "Steverson can fix 'em" prospects should be taken off waivers or in return for one of our Ackleys. We have Abreu, so we trade for Smoak? This is why deals are so hard to make. Franklin and Ackley are exactly who the Mariners want to trade for someone like Alexei. But who wants those guys? that's why I say A or AA prospect with some ceiling, regardless of position. Don't need more junk in this organization.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 25, 2014 -> 01:20 PM) Franklin is a given if they trade Alexei. A no-hit infielder is exactly what Sox don't need. Sox are loaded with MI prospect sox need pitching c, and OF. and players who can actually hit. Mariners may have some good A or AA pitching they'd deal. But we don't need their AAA/ML players/prospects like Franklin or Ackley.

Gillaspie needs to learn to play some outfield.

Ideally, the Sox should peddle Belasario over the next month. To do that, he'll need a few saves. Just hope he doesn't do what Linstrom did last year: pitch like crap for the 6 weeks leading up to 7/30.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 24, 2014 -> 09:43 AM) Grandal has had less than 500 ML PA, and only have of them have been bad. And really, not THAT bad -- he's accumulated 3.1 fWAR over those 500PA, which equates to a very decent seasons, and is better than any stretch of 500 PA in Beckham's career. Why do we think we can get Grandal for cheap? Same logic people think anyone can take Beckham for nothing. Similar career pattern. Beckham for a few more years; but is having a better year this year.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 24, 2014 -> 06:52 AM) The only concern is that he's a total hacker (61/7 K/BB), but otherwise Anderson appears to be more advanced than initially believed. Hacking is a big concern. It often translates into big problems hitting ML pitching, as per the White Sox hitters. This is where development comes in - good issue for him to work on for a while in the minors.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 24, 2014 -> 09:16 AM) At some point he will if he's healthy. Cooper said before the draft that Rodon was the closest of the 4 the Sox were looking at, and the FO put out the "fast track" stuff immediately. I think he'll see some time this year out of the pen and will probably prepare in the offseason for a starting spot, whether it is here or at Charlotte to begin the year. He shouldn't be anywhere near this team this year, and start that arb clock rolling.

At least be consistent. If Beckham is worth a zero value failed prospect, we should be able to get Grandal for a Jared Mitchell or Erik Johnson (were he to have a surgery to 2).