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Will Sox be buyers, not sellers, at the trade deadline?
GreenSox replied to VAfan's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Good lord, now people want to trade all of our prospects. We're hot now, and still 1 game over .500. Even if we eek into the playoffs, we could be like the Indians - a hot team last year that will be lucky to play .500 this year. We seriously lack pitching. And I know, Johnson is useless now because he wasn't successful the first month. Trade the veterans, not the prospects. -
QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Apr 28, 2014 -> 06:31 PM) Noesi will probably start Scariest one yet so far this year. But, we'll se..
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Rosenthal speculates on deadline deal candidates
GreenSox replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I'd trade any of the usual mentioned guys for high end prospects or prospects with high ceiling, with some emphasis on pitching. No mediocre veterans and absolutely no middle relievers need apply. -
QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 28, 2014 -> 09:20 AM) He has more value to us than he would in a trade. Not sure if you're just overreacting to the pitching problems in the big leagues or what, but this is a very unlikely scenario. I sure hope you wouldn't want to dump one of our only prospects with a great approach. Why would he have more value to us? Don't all organizations want prospects with great approaches. Just trade him for prospect(s) in areas of need. Certainly don't want to trade him (or anyone else) for middle relievers or mediocre veterans. But we have little top end pitching in the farm; we are flush in other areas. Seems like a good trade scenario.
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Trade him and/or others for young pitching.
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QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Apr 27, 2014 -> 11:27 PM) Just watching the movement on his pitches and the way he goes after guys, he's for real I think as a legit back end rotation starter yea, I agree. That movement on his pitches suggests to me he's a step up from Axe.
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QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 27, 2014 -> 12:57 AM) Damn, our pitching turned to promising to s*** in 28 days. Our starting pitching has been razor thin since the first day of spring. We were counting on a rookie and a Coop reclamation project for 40% of the rotation. There was always a reasonable chance this could happen. I still like all the trades.
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QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 27, 2014 -> 05:55 PM) 3 walks for Hawkins, plus the homer, and the almost homer to dead center. His problem, like they said about Abreu, is his bat's too slow.
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QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ Apr 23, 2014 -> 09:32 PM) All I know is I don't want Beckham playing over Semien or Gillaspie. Amen, although I guess it's worth a chance to dress him up for a trade.
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Webb is too good (relatively speaking) to waste closing. We need him in tighter situations
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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 22, 2014 -> 07:16 PM) The world's greatest pitching depth isn't coming through It was pretty obvious in the spring we had zero depth. And it was also obvious that Downs had nothing left - he threw softballs in the spring, just like now. Veal is a better pitcher than Downs. Leesman should be sent to the pen in Charlotte; he clearly can't start but maybe he has enough command to get lefties out. Cabrera slaughtered him, but a lot of the hits were the result of placement and poor D.
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3 hits and 2 runs on 3 doink ground balls.
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So I guess Leesman is our new Axe.
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If 2 of Flowers, Viciedo and Gillaspie are for real, we're gold. And then there's Alexei swinging at a ball way off the plat.
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QUOTE (Baron @ Apr 22, 2014 -> 06:20 PM) He isnt exactly throwing fireballs out there It looks like he'll be okay if he can keep the ball away. But he hasn't gotten the calls out there - not that they were strikes, but pretty close.
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J Danks is barely batting .100.
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How could anyone possibly question 127 pitches in week 3 of the season. it's as ridiculous as questioning running out of pitchers in the 14th inning. Hire a professional manager, please, Rick/Kenny/Jerry.
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Last I saw, Beckham was hitting
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QUOTE (The Mighty Mite @ Apr 17, 2014 -> 04:53 PM) Robin was not a good choice to begin with, he has shown no improvement in his OJT. The Sox made it worse by extending him. No way should you run out of pitchers in a 14 inning game. This sums it up nicely. I also think Cooper is at least 1/3 manager of this team, which is one reason the Sox hired a weak manager, instead of someone like Francona.
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QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Apr 16, 2014 -> 01:28 AM) It appears that Adam is back and will be a key component to our playoff push in 2014. I'm wondering if we should negotiate a new deal now before he posts a 35 HR / 100 RBI season and drives his asking rate through the roof. Yes we should negotiate a deal - deal him to the team that offers us the most young talent for him.
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He's made many- he's basically an amateur. Heck, tonight he left his starting pitcher in to give up 13 hits in less than 4 innings. Didn't even try to win the game.
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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 15, 2014 -> 02:15 PM) The problem he faces is simple numbers. In addition to everyone in Chicago, plus Beckham and Keppinger on the DL, plus Sanchez in AAA, he's got a lot of guys to fight past to get a look. I think we'll know a lot more in a few months, when sample sizes are more meaningful and we know more about how the infielders will fall out above him. Rememer too that Micah Johnson is knocking on the door behind him. Let him play some outfield then. Possible? We're short there, especially if we move De Aza like we should (or should have).
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QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Apr 14, 2014 -> 11:36 PM) No, I don't like drafting relievers in any round. I'd rather draft a fringe starter than a regular closer. Maybe that's too old school thinking, but I want my bullpen full of failed starters. No relief pitchers in the first several rounds.
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QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 14, 2014 -> 01:31 PM) I'd rather have Hoffman at slot value or just under than Rodon at overslot $$. Maybe so. But I just look at his numbers and see 5Ks, 8 hits over 6 or 7 innings against decent (and some not so decent) C-USA teams. Elite starter? And I follow C-USA baseball. I guess I ought to read the scouting reports and see what the deal is.
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I would take Rodon over Hoffman, even though the NC State coaches overpitch Rodon and likely will continue to do so. Hoffman's numbers just don't do it for me; I know there is more there but I still don't get it. I saw him pitch once - not dominating at all.