GreenSox

Yes, the pitching is just bad. The offense is what is historically awful. The OPS of the 29th offense is closer to number 13 then we are to number 29.

Screw that. I want the Sox to sweep the angels and then sweep the tigers right out of the playoffs.

I wonder who the AL coach is who was told not to get his hopes up. Re the Sizemore thing I suspect that it’s just being respectful for a person who took on a tough assignment. I like the guy. I hope he stays in the organization. Getz effed up a couple of trades really badly. One solution for that may be to trade only with second and third tier general managers. but it does seem like he’s trying to get some good people into the organization.

Anderson again. This don’t give themselves a chance.

I guess that the Santos trade is his Magnum Opus, such as it is; of course, that's the one that was most popular among the posters (I wasn't as enthusiastic as most, but they were right). For Crochet, please avoid the vulture GMs.....and don't eff it up.

He's also ranked #54 in framing. Now part of that is probably the umps not giving Sox pitchers the benefit of the doubt, because the team is so bad. But Sox pitchers consistently get pinched. And .562 OPS is just not something a great arm and release can overcome. I realize he's nowhere close to the biggest problem, but so far, he's no solution either.

Well, the Sox have a lot of young pitchers; they pen should be better and they can fill out a staff. I should probably revise that prediction and say 20th. But the offense is why they are historically bad. Measured by OPS, the #29 team is closer to #15, than the #30 (Sox) is to #29. That is qn unbelievable gap.

So is Korey Lee. Good gracious, he's been terrible with the bat. Sox should have league-average pitching next season. But they have nothing on offense. Of course the offense is why they are record-setting bad this season. 6-6 avoids the record. Take 4/6 from the Angels (they are bad and the Sox should be trying harder than them) and 1 each from the Padres and Tigers, and on to next season.

OPS .760.

Kopech had a near perfect July and another year of control. There was no objective urgency to move him. it’s like Getz is getting advice from the people he’s trading with. Ridiculously naïve.

We’ll see- this touches on the integrity of the game.

Maybe they can bring in the GM that hired him to oversee Getz. and if JR won’t do anything, MLB should force it.

Somebody please tell Getz that you only buy a fixer-upper, if you get a deep discount.

This is just ridiculous. And Peralta ...his four seamer tops out at 90MPH. Why do people think he's a major leaguer?

I like the looks of Fraser Ellard; he's had control issues, but not today. Should be good going forward.

I surmise that Williams wanted him gone for whatever reason. So he moved him out at the same time Hahn was dispatching the expiring contracts and other bullpen riffraff. I just consider him part of a big group that was moved out, the aggregate of which was positive.

Wrong thread again

As I listened to this, my feeling was that he sounds like he knows what he’s doing. And then I got to the 27 minute mark where he said that Jacob Gonzalez has had a good year…..

Sox issue 11 walks, and it’s our biggest winner of the year. Amazing game.

Elko's college numbers, while not at Vaughn's 1200-1300 OPS level, were certainly the equal of early round picks Burger and Sheets. That he Elko was drafted so low suggests that there was something "missing" (bat speed? just guessing). Any idea whether what was missing has been found and whether he's a legit prospect or a AAAA guy?

Hahn had experience on the business side. He didn’t know dick about talent evaluation or other baseball aspects.

On a side note, Maddog went on a 5 minute rant about Reinsdorf on his show at noon on Sirus. Among other things, he wailed on JR for hiring unqualified GMs Hahn and Getz.

That happened because that's the 'top 100" player that the Padres wanted to give up. Getz never makes the other team feel any pain or real sense of loss in a trade. Always on the other teams' terms. Pedro should have been fired last yea after he did nothing but lose with a decent (although flawed) roster and was bitching about the "clubhouse" the whole way. He is a terrible manager so no time is a bad time to dump him. I'm also glad that Getz didn't stop with Grifol and cleared out a lot of the dugout. Big opportunity for Sizemore; he was an intern a year ago, out of baseball for 5 or so seasons before that. Can't say that he's "qualified' for this position, but let's see what he can do.

He did a few good things, but he's really fallen apart with the trades. The best thing he did was signing Fedde: he heeded the advice of Bannister, the one adult he hired. The other team got precisely what it wanted on his trades: the specific player they wanted, 40-man relief or both. Getz, in turn, received what the other team was willing to give him: Vargas, who can't play a position, as a headliner, for example. The Fedde/Kopech/Pham trade was an absolute abomination. As for Pedro, his salary is a whopping $1 mill. JR has dumped much more than that in dead money before. Getz likes Pedro; he thinks he's a good baseball mind.

Just looking at the ESPN charts, the ump seems to have squeezed the hell out of Bush. Didn't give him dick on the corners or at the bottom of the zone.