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I wonder if Getz doesn't box himself into a corner by insisting on position prospects. To some extent it goes back to the draft when they had a choice of the 3 position players that they had dreamed of, and passed on all 3. Now, they almost have to take position players, even though the value may be in pitching.

Being perfectly honest, the Jays' return doesn't make me feel any worse about this afternoon's debacle.

There you go Astros. Just who you need to solve your 1B problem: Vaughn

4 hits and one run. Vaughn does his thing.

Could be why they’re still trying to trade him, even though his value is not what it was. If you smite Jerry, you gotta go.

Watch the Dodgers fleece us for Crochet, and then, since he won't do them much good this season, send him to the minors to collect the extra year.

I agree with the comparison; it's too early in Getz' career to make a lazy trade like that. But it was far from the worst trade.

Pedro Grifol doesn't like Colas. That was obvious last season.

Why do they keep brining Peralta back? He's terrible. I'd like to see them call up Dominguez. Not that I think that he'll be good; but he's nearing 30 and his a White Sox lifer, so it would be cool to see him get his moment in the major league sun (such as it is).

Foot-long Comiskey dog is spinning it nice on Twitter. And Chuck is showing minor-league highlights

I hope you're right; but I would think just the fact that there would be prospects coming from St Lous would have been announced.

And Vargas is exactly the "Big Piece" the Dodgers were trying to dump. And to throw in Pham and Kopech? Getz being led around by the nose. This is pure amateur hour.

Seems awfully light. Trade on the Dodgers and Cards terms: they each traded exactly the player they were hoping to trade. And to not extract a prospect from the Cardinals....

That may say as much about Pedro and the White Sox then it does about Fletcher. And they insist on running sheets and Eloy and Lopez out there the rest of the season, then he just got a wonder what they’re doing.

You may be right. But his minor-league numbers were bad last year and they are even worse this year. He hit better in the majors than the minors last year. I don’t know if that was just happenstance or what. and I just hate to start the rebuild off with a bad defender.

I hope Pedro isn’t advising him. Describing Nick Senzel as “a strong right handed bat” is not the sort of advice Getz needs. Hr should at least objectively consider the twins and guardians offers.

What would that accomplish? The payroll is going to be low enough as it is next year. This team has one for sure major league hitter going forward. One. Are we going to give away our best trade chit? yes, he clogged others’ development. I’m tired of looking at him. Just DFA him. or just let him sit on the bench and play solitaire. Pedro doesn’t use his bullpen like a competent manager anyway, so they don’t need 13 pitchers.

And even if they were contenders, who cares? The AL East teams trade with each other all the time. Schueler had that "we won't trade with the AL" nonsense when he was white flagging it; we ended up with Foulke and a pile of crap instead of the Lowe and Varitek that Boston got for Slocumb who wasn't as good as Roberto Hernandez, not to mention the other players that the Sox threw into the trade.

i think Law was probably right - hasn't been the same since the back injury. There really wasn't any sign of him being unable to hit velocity before that. Hopefully he can recover from that. But he may not - great prospects turn to crap all the time. The one plus is that he's not changing his approach.

For Tampa, it may be as simple as they suck at DH and they have someone waiting in the wings who can play 3B. Meanwhile, they pick up 2 power arms. They probably could have gotten some good prospects from another team, but they don't want to rebuild, just retool. They know what they're doing.

And Getz, if the Twins are Guardians make the best offer, take it. Who cares if he throws against us a few times next year.

Well, I'll try. This actually violates some of my preferences such as not using our best trade chips for corners. But alas: 1) Trade Crochet and Kopech for Rushing, Outman and 3 good pitching prospects. 2)Trade Fedde for the best SS/3B/OF prospect he can find; maybe 2. Offseason: 3)Trade Thorpe for a SS/3B/OF prospect. Addendum: Vaughn, Moncada, Sheets, Lopez, Eloy, all hit the bricks. 2025 4) Play Colas/Julks/Fletcher/DeLoach. One of them develops into an average starter. Another one develops into a platoon bat. 5) Give Sosa time in OF; work him toward being a utility player. His bat may work, but we'll see. 6) Robert is resurgent and is traded for 2 good hitting prospects SS/3B/OF" 7)Baldwin develops into an average ML 2B. 8 ) Quero gets his first taste of the majors and is the real deal At the end of 2025 we have: C- Lee and Quero; Rushing 3rd catcher 1B Rushing 2B Baldwin SS and 3B and LF: one of the prospects from Fedde/Thorpe/Robert trade. CF Outman RF: The Colas/F.letcher/DeLoach winner Will leave plenty of $$ for a judicious FA signing or 2. That should get us competitive; need at last 2 boppers, which need to come from some of the above and/or FA.

Sox need someone with the patience to develop young players.

That’s a ton. Getz can’t cut a deal? Do the other GMs just think he’s a dupe and won’t offer anything?

Pedro explained the situation: "Unless there's something that's really, really, really close to being executed, you don't compromise a major-league game for something that's not really close."