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Only if a rental and cheap. Long term planning when buying at the deadline is counterproductive. Buying now usually means paying a premium for career years, trading young for old, instead of retooling.

Of course Preller spent a lot of time in the weeds (v. Sox GM who, well, didn't). I always like listening to the late rounds of the draft; remarkable how fast it goes. A pick every 20 seconds or so.

This is what I don't understand. In the NFL and NBA, the GM makes the draft pick (based on work by scouts, et al). The implication here is that the scouting director makes the pick. Seems weird. Anyway, the Sox drafted a pure reliever and a likely reliever under Hostetler (although some attribute Fulmer to Lauman) and a likely reliever under Shirley.

Cueto: A+ Leury: D Graveman A- Harrison D+ VV: D McGuire: D+ Pollock: F Kelly: C- (turning it around) Haseley: D-

Hjerpe has a goofy delivery and back end of rotation upside. Even with the Sox willingness to draft first-round relievers, it wouldn't make much sense.

I hear ya. They could also DH Grandal, and IL Eloy and get him fully healthy. Could use the LH stick.

Sounds good to me (the underslot, not the catcher). A lot of college pitchers seem to be on basically the same level.

No objection here. But that's just really unlikely. Not the MO of the FO. Zeb did a nice frame job to end game 4 in Cleveland.

There’s no reason at all for Hahn to be messing with our best prospects. That’s just lazy. The second Montgomery gets out of this organization he’ll be at top 20; Not because of some superior development plan, but because the White Sox do not hype their prospects, whether by choice, or whether they just simply don’t know what they have.

The back 3 of the pen are just killing it.

He's a legitimate major league catcher who has played well. It would be ridiculous to cut a good player (again). They could probably get some lotto prospect for McGuire if they tried.

2017 3rd round draft pick Luis Gonzalez also back for the Giants. 0-4. Just saw Caulfield's post - didn't realized that he pitched as well.

Yep. Don't like it. Lots of ways to go underslot without punting.

The ESPN potential draft lists for the Sox and Braves were similar; but for the Braves they mentioned that they could sign one of them underslot. Underslot seems like it would work for the Sox too, considering the volume of college pitchers in the 1/2 round category (recognizing they draft 6 spots later and that underslot in early rounds is not in Sox MO).

Who's the other guy with Ozzie and Garfien?

Pilkington's going to pitch the game of his life today, isn't he?

No argument here. I thought he was over his head in 2013 and my opinion has gotten only more steadfast.

By all accounts, Hahn made a serious run at Wheeler. Machado - no. That was an embarrassing effort. No one knows exactly which, if any, of Hahn's numerous howlers were forced upon him. The Leury contract smells of LaRussa, but otherwise, most of the moves have been Hahn-level stuff he's been doing for a long time. But he's been GM for over a decade and he has had 2 winning seasons. He just needs to run along.

One can dream. Heck Haber may show that he's more than the Hahn footman he appears to be.

Which would be ridiculous. But when you don't think 2 moves ahead, this happens. Last year the #30 farm waived its #12 (or so) prospect.

Taking pitches is certainly a new tune coming from Ozzie, compared to when he was manager. This just isn’t anything that the org prioritizes.

I think what you said is true. But, with this organization, the reliever risk is heightened...by a lot. I really don't want the Sox to draft anyone in in the first few rounds (until they start punting) that has any resemblance to a reliever.

Kenny Williams should have given a longer speech.

If a pitcher pitches well, Ks will come naturally. Otherwise, an out is an out. The top analytics orgs have moved beyond Ks. I just don't get this org.

To say the least....