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at the moment. The proposal is not a bad trade; it's just frustrating to be in this position.

Trade Sheets and we're short a LH hitter. Fill one hole (and neither Weathers or Paddack are certainties) and create another. Hosmer has negative value. It's just so late for all of this.

Keller has a WHIP in excess of 1.7 in 170 innings. That's about what touted prospect Gavin Floyd looked like with the Phils (in fewer innings). Kenny Williams didn't send an Andrew Vaughn for him. Comparing Keller's resuls to Vaughn's first season is ridiculous.

Vaughn has a more ascertainable value than Burger and esp. Sheets. Extracting that value in a trade is difficult, however. Montas sure isn't it.

Why not? Plenty of pitchers come back to start, and do it well. They can build the innings up post-surgery.

Hopefully they groom him for the rotation, post recovery.

He's an average pitcher, and the price will be steep. The Sox may have to make a trade for a SP while the market favors sellers, but they don't have to do it now, and they don't have to do it with the As. So wait.

This is a great freaking trade!

No team trades a prospect for an org guy. Well, almost no team. They're available for cash considerations. It needs to be a heck of a pinch for him to be on the major league roster.

Then find another org. outfielder. They're a dime a dozen.

They should have traded Rutherford for him.

One org guy deserves another. If the Sox gave anything more than an org guy or cash, they really should seek mental help

Agree. I just don't get the desire to tie the Sox up long-term with a slightly above average player (who had a well below average year last year). Just a repeat of another failed practice.

I'm high on Sheets, Vaughn and Engel.

The Sox won 93 against, frankly, a weak schedule: AL Central, 6 games v. Cubs, etc. On paper, the SP looks weaker. BUT, a lot of players were out for extended periods last year. I see OF, including RF, as a strength, not a weakness. Hopefully the bullpen investment will take a lot of innings and pressure off of the starters (who broke down in the playoffs). In all, I see 90-93 again. Now the Twins may have just had "one of those years" and could pop back up like the Sox did in 2008 after the 2007 debacle. But, I didn't think they were particularly good in 2018-2020 when their records were good, so I see last season at least partially due to reversion to the mean.

The Sox spent money - just on players that would provide marginal help. But they spent. This is de minimis. Doesn't sound like a JR issue, unless there is some animus due to his being player rep.

Adolfo is the kind of player teams move in July for their help. That's how the Sox get Medeiros et al for Soria et al. And yet, when trading FOR the reliever, the Sox don't send their out of option/Rule 5 guys

The Sox needed, and still do need, a real 2B more than they need Conforto.

My first year following the Sox as a child. They finally made playoffs when I was an adult. RIP, Pete Ward.

Righteous bucks.

Abreu/Robert of course, was Ken Williams. Rick Hahn can't evaluate talent; nor can his top assistant. He squandered opportunity during the buildup period (post Sale trade) to improve the farm, trading viable relievers in July for Rule 5 guys (often who were also relievers) instead of a real prospect. Note that he traded a prospect, not rule 5 guys, for each of Tepera, Hernandez, Mazara, et al. "Chicago White Sox" makes a compelling argument that there is no window beyond 2024. The problem is that there is so little to trade. On the major league roster, we have a) Sheets and b) Crochet. Re Sheets, we are short LH hitters as it is; PLUS the team trading for Sheets will want much more as they can't be sure about him just like we can't. As for trading Crochet, well, I guess if all he is is a reliever (side note; another FRD for a reliever). But I was kind of hoping with all of these veteran bullpen signings, they would "stretch him out" and see if he can start. In the minors, it's the 2 guys from 2021 draft and maybe one of the pitchers who hasn't imploded his value.

While I would prefer signing a starter, I like the approach. The upper (and perhaps lower) system is light on pitching, so we sign it. We have young ML ready hitters, so use them.

Sheets was a 2nd round pick who made a steady, albeit deliberate, progress in the minors. His lights came on, when the stage lights were off: at the ATF in 2020. We heard murmurs of his leap 2020, and then when the lights came back on in 2021, we saw it. His OBP was solid; Palka's was 298. Sheets advanced through our system; Palka had already been through two other systems, released by the last. He's one of the few LH hitters we have; he absolutely raked last year. The idea that "he has no future with this org." is just beyond me. Sure he may be a platoon hitter. So what -plenty of winning orgs platoon. Yes, he may be a Palka - it's more than worth the wait to find out. "Selling high" (there's always a first time, I guess) still won't be particularly bountiful. And another, largely coincidental and "apropos of nothing", the Sox haven't had a 2nd round pick who ended up worth a hoot in 30 years. Maybe we finally do.

He has a lot of talent, but another guy who walks too many. Seems to have lost whatever he had. Maybe new scenery and coaching will help.

I can see it if Leury is the presumptive 2B. Otherwise, it takes away another bat. But to me, 2B is in more of a need of upgrading than RF. Engel's played really well when healthy; and sheets was a monster against RHP and he didn't do it Palka-style.