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Yes, Cease too.

Great news tonight that Rodon's back. Gio, Rodon and Lynn matches up with anyone (and overmatches several).

While Hansen Kd 11 in 5 innings in September, he also walked 4 in 5 innings. As a 27 year old in AA. Sox have several minor league pitchers who look intriguing with high Ks, but then you look at the walks and there's no way unless that improves.

I'd like to see Keuchel do some bullpen work this weekend; he's not going to be in the playoff rotation, but he's tough and has postseason experience. Considering how dismal the back half of this pen looks, Keuchel is worth a look back there.

The 1-run losses where the Sox don't hit to bad teams that the Sox have experienced over the last couple of weeks are annoying. The coup de grace was the work of Hahn's midseason acquisitions.

I think the Sox should be competitive each year, if properly managed. And that might require trading players before their decline. And if there is a window, I hope it's long after 8 years in the wilderness.

I think moving a contributor is a reasonable idea; can't stay static. Moncada, however, would be difficult to move to due his hefty salary. And it's a stretch to count on Burger. As for Romy, he seems to have a similar CV to a few others who popped this year. He had a pretty blah Kanny in 2019, then the 2020 hidden year, and then 2021 comes around and he dominates AA and AAA. So far, so good.

Go expansion! Plenty of good players. Just need more playoff teams to stop the tanking.

Sox didn't try to sign him in the offseason, and passed on him here. Could be as straightforward as the Sox not liking his game. New pitching sheriff in town.

Thanks everyone at Futuresox for your work on this and everything else.

Well, at their age, if they aren't on the Major league roster, they are clogging the 40 man. And they need a 2b, probably a starter, and figure out RF.

I think they'll have to move him onto the (crowded) 40 man after his season. Good to have some infielders ready to go.

That's true, but a lot of those players were from Sale/Q/Eaton dispersal moves. Those are over. I've followed the Sox for a long time and they've always struggled with the farm, except for the period from around the late 1980s to early 2000s. And not surprisingly, they were consistently good from 1990-2008 ( a few off years, but not many); and that's the only period of sustained "goodness" since the mid 60s. Maybe this is another such period -it's fair to say that the farm has produced more productive players than the rankings suggest it should. And despite all the guffaws I got in another thread, yes their 2nd round picks have sucked: leaving last few years TBD, it's Bob Wickman and Terry Forster, 2 relievers, since 1965.

They are going to have to make some decisions and moves with these guys (or others) and clear out some of the upper minors. Burger and Sheets have some value, but both are Rule 5 I think, which tempers things. And Sheets will need to play a good OF. From what I read, Burger really whacked the ball when he was up (impressing the stats guys impressing the stats guys with his exit velocities and such). Or they can keep these guys and move some of the incumbents. They'll need a 2B, OF and pitching next season.

I get why the low minor teams are terrible (#30 farm system plus a lot of really young guys among the new prospects); but Charlotte's roster doesn't look like a 26 below .500 roster.

Beating up on the Twins is always treat. Only 2 more games left in 2021 to get the licks in.

#30, indeed.

Knight's comments all over the AAP board are downright depressing and reinforce that #30.

Kath he wasn't a consensus first round talent (to some, not even a 2nd round talent). So why pay him overslot? If they think he's really a first round talent (while few others do) then that's their premium. Same with the 3rd round pick. As for rounds 5-10, they've had more success in those rounds than they've had in the 2nd (which is none in the last 20+ years, Sheets and the recent picks TBD).

Be proactive to keep up the starting pitching. Think ahead. Don't be afraid to move players early. That should keep the window perpetual.

When I quote something to reply to a post, and then change my mind and decide not to reply, I can't get the post that I quoted out of the posting box. Any ideas as to how to clear it out? Thanks.

Compare Kimbrel (Closer), Tepera (setup), and Hernandez (2b) for Madrigal, Heuer, Pilkington, and Horn With Robertson (Closer), Kahnle (setup) and Frazier (3b) for Rutherford, Clarkin (rule 5), Polo and Clippard (included for salary reasons; quickly sent to Astros).

Just a matter of time that Burr got exposed, but only gave up 1. Good bullpen gives up a couple when it scuffles; the Twins bullpen gives up a five-spot. Another fun W.

Heck yea. And now that some have been pulled into duty and have played well, they have more value. However, they are probably a little late on some of the guys like Adolpho.

Sox could probably move Kuechel, just in the sense of "we'll take him if the Sox keep 1/2 his salary." Offseason salary-dump with no real prospect exchanged. Sox free up cash; the other team gets a decent pitcher for $10 million, which is around his market rate I'd guess.