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If they are going to fire Renteria, then they should go ahead and fire a few others (including some sacred cows) while they're at it. It's the bad hitting that has put Renteria in a position to make poor decisions.

It's a consolation prize. High end relievers are readily available in free agency. The Sox have a chance for the real prize...at least see what you've got. You need to hit a home-run on some of these picks; it won't always happen, and it usually doesn't, but that's the whole point of tanking - to put yourself in a better position to get a stud. Not to get a reliever.

Starter. With this stuff, he has a chance to be a TOR guy and they need to see if he can do it. Starters have far, far more value than relievers. Yes, I thought he was a dubious pick, and if they leave him as a reliever, I will, unfortunately, have been correct. Starter.

While I realize this is why he was drafted, it is a strange time to call him up.

Rickey hasn't choked and called for bunting (in contrast to Ventura in his playoff chase); and he's handled the pitching well. No complaints.

Maybe Ray Durham, kinda. TA has a higher BA but Durham walked a lot more, but similar power numbers, both middle infielders. Of course Durham never had a year like 2020 TA

I never hoped for that for first round picks. Becoming an average player is a consolation prize for a first round pick.

Just don't wear him out.

You have a generous definition of a major leaguer. Way too many high picks were wasted under Hostetler. Overall, there is one major league starter (Madrigal, top 5 pick), one possible major league starting pitcher (Stiever), a few relievers and some guys hanging on to the bottom of expanded rosters. I remain unconvinced that Hostelter's drafts were even average, much less quality.

Hopefully, the Tigers' top 10 choices turn out like the Sox' did.

Not really. Without crowds, not much HFA. Certainly not enough to waste energy to win the division if you have a playoff berth sealed up.

Yea, except that as it stands now, you get a more favorable opponent by finishing second than first. Who knows how that will shake up; thus, to me, it's unimportant. I mean I guess a division title is something in itself, but not the prize.

You could be right; my preference would be to play the team with the weakest pitching - we should be able to outblast them. But again, with this 2nd place stuff instead of 5 wildcards), it's sometimes better not to win your division. So just get the team health and ready for playoff game 1.

They don't need to use excess energy against the Cubs, Twins and Tribe. That's a waste. Beating up on the hapless Royals put them in a position so that they don't have to. All that matters is putting the team in the best position possible for the playoffs, and standings is not a big part of that as long as you're top 8. 6 man rotation sounds good, toward that end.

Leury can play IF or OF, so you get 2 utility players for the price of 1. He's a much better option than Yolmer. That would allow a pick up of, say, another OF who can play his position and actually hit. That would mean that the Sox would need 2 good OFs and it would finally give them a bench bat. They'll need another reliever or 2...sign a couple of those. And maybe they'll need a starter - we'll see. If Rodon shows life this month, I'd pick up his last year; can't be that expensive anyway.

They don't need 1B and DH help, really.

I would. Sox are making the playoffs and you only need 3 starters in the playoffs. Starting pitching is not a weakness on this team and trading any of them listed above for Lance Lynn is madness.

Let's just make sure that the Sox get real quality this time. No more Samardzijas, Fraziers, Shields, etc. No more howling at the moon that average players are somehow great.

Prospects and current major leaguers: sounds like an overpay already. Please don't trade the young pitchers that are throwing well for some 30+ year old. And if he's trading for veteran relievers, he needs to give what he gets when he does the trading: Rule 5 guys and stunted prospects.

What about the .500 Tigers? This division is about to be a bear.

Not in my opinion. The Sox have enough starters. Kopech + gets into Chris Sale's price territory. That would be ridiculous.

In the Hahn and late-Williams eras, these types of trades for veterans have made the Sox decidedly worse, not better. Hopefully, they've improved with evaluation and negotiation.

Fry has been effective in 7 of his 9 outings this year. Now they're using him sparingly, so something may be amiss. And his last 5 outings have been good.

The price tag on Ray certainly shouldn't be high. He's an average starter having an awful year. Taking salary should get that done.

yes and yes. And re #4, doing these types of things is how you shorten the window.