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Several players they could have dumped instead; but they like their org. minor leaguers.

Nothing that Darin Erstad couldn't fix, right Oz? He's right of course, Rickeys (both of them) are out of their league, but he shouldn't be catcalling anything. And the elevation of Delmonico, who was cut last summer, is weird.

The FO job is to see potential; plus, who they traded them FOR made little sense so there was little to be gained anyway. Too many excuses for this, heretofore, unproductive FO.

That's was Williams, but yep. Don't prioritize them at all.

Trade Steiever for more broken down veteran pitchers? The last thing the Sox need is for Hahn to panic and put on a clown show like he did in 2016.

I get that, but then I see the name Detwiler. Anyway, they darn well better make the playoffs this year, or the house should be cleared, pillar to post.

The drafted high school pitchers; they're risky, but okay. The thing is, for 2 straight years, they had to punt half of the draft to do it. I didn't understand Crochet - looked like another "quick to the majors" reach, with a little pining for Sale thrown in. SS are the way to go; they could have easily taken the player that the Cubs tool Of course Hahn dispatched 2 of the best in baseball for very little in return, so he clearly has other ideas.

They cut him but kept Ross Detwiler?

I haven't paid much attention to the 2nd spring training, but how in the world does Ross Detweiler make this team? He was awful last year. And where's Fulmer; I thought he was having a good spring (well the first one anyway).

Well, Ozzie, it's the teams carrying the I Pads that have been winning for the last decade; the Sox were a decade late to the party, and it shows. As for Cooper, the results have been mediocre so I can't argue with him there.

I remember 2000 as a blast, sort of out of nowhere, of which the prospects totally changed when we dumped Navarro for 2 productive players right before spring training. It was also my first year on message boards and my introduction to message boards. In what I thought was a ridiculous thread on some Sox board, I posted something like 'Yall are acting like a bunch of 13 year olds," to which I received a series of replies along the lines of "what's wrong with being 13?" Sometimes one forgets...

Hopefully Hahn has learned at least the basics of the concept of "salary dump" . But so far,it's been ugly when Hahn wades in these waters.

Zach Burdi -quick to the majors, just like Sale Carson Fulmer - the White Sox have been great at dealing with awkward deliveries; they'll fix him. Tyler Danish - low arm slot; a right handed Sale. White Sox know how to deal with low arm slot pitchers. The reality is that the Sox haven't been very good at all at developing pitchers. Not surprised by this pick. This is what Hahn does.

This is like the third high draft choice that they claimed was supposed to be just like Chris Sale. Ugh.

05 I always felt that there was something missing on the 94 team...well, really 93 team as that's the one I remember. 2B was a real weak-link. Too many lineup holes: 2b, Guillen, Karkovice Pen wasn't great Manager wasn't either.

Maybe so, but that roster without Trout/Rendon/Ohtani is no worse than the Royals or Tigers. Heck I think there's a big chance of a significant Indians regression. But Dodgers/Reds/Angels>>>>>>>>>Twins/Royals/Tigers

Is there any team worse than the Sox in that division? It looks like 3 or 4 .500ish teams plus the Dodgers. Much tougher than the AL Central. I will note that they really stuck it to the Yankees with that North division......

He suffered for a long time and fought hard. Thanks for the memories and Rest in Peace, Ed Farmer.

I haven’t posted in a while, so this is a fun diversion. Abreu extension: D+ I’d give it a B- were it a 1 year extension. But this clogs things up. I’m all for avoiding “bad” clubhouse guys, but not big on players because they are “good” in the clubhouse. Grandal signing: A- He’s an excellent player; I just think that we had a good catcher, and 2 young catchers behind him. Mazara trade: B I go against the grain on this one. I give this a C+ for the player and an A for the execution. He’s a flawed player, but they needed a RF and the Sox like this guy. Second, the price was reasonable. Third, one thing that happens to rebuilders is that they start log-jamming prospects. This allowed the Sox to thin out the prospect ranks in an area where they had a lot of similar prospects. Fourth, there really weren’t a lot of alternatives in the FA market. The 2 big FA were flawed players that required long term commitments. Keuchel signing: B They missed out on the guy they really needed/wanted, but after that, Keuchel is about the best they could have done. There’s a risk that he rapidly declines, but Sox are pretty good with lefties. Gio G signing: C+ He’s fine for a 5th starter. EE signing: C I think the Sox could have filled this internally and there’s a big chance he declines rapidly. Luis Robert et al extension: A+ I assign this grade to each of the young player extensions. (okay Bummer’s was unnecessary, but that’s subsumed by the rest of them). It’s what the Sox FO does best. Cishek signing: C+ He’s okay. Sox needed a bullpen arm. Overall: B They didn’t address 2B, which I guess means that they think Madrigal is coming in late spring or early summer. I would have liked to see some creative trades, although the Sox didn't have a lot of tangible players or even prospects that they could logically trade to trade (McCann the exception).

Just someone who has the stones to throw the 9th; if we have anyone with really good stuff, they need to pitch the 7th and 8th.

Trade McCann for a decent pitching prospect.

And I just scanned the #5 picks over the same period and I see Matt Williams, Dwight Gooden, Jack McDowell, Vernon Wells, JD Drew, Mark Texeira, Ryan Braun, Buster Posey. So there's some coincidence/sample size involved. The draft is difficult. But that and international signings are the two major sources for young players. The third source, and most efficient, is trading for other teams prospects....you should get a more consistent return because they are more developed.

And the context is his AA numbers: he raked while everyone else, nearly to a man, struggled. And what about Narvaez...he never hit in the minors, but suddenly rakes in the majors. Sometimes these guys just blow-up and teams need to be ready when they do. Dodgers specialize in this stuff.

Some guys do break out later in life, and Mercedes may be one of those. What he did in Birmingham last season was particularly impressive.

Assuredly. That's how many will end up. But that's not their potential. Oh maybe that's the potential for a few in the back half, but teams don't use top 10 picks in the hopes of finding an Eckstein level player. That's the consolation prize....the steak knives.