GreenSox

If they want to trade him, they'd be smart to trade him to the White Sox. They get the prospects they want, plus damage a divisional rival long term. If they trade Lindor, they don't care what happens next year anyway.

The Rays would do that trade in a heartbeat...that's what they do. For the Sox, that's buying high on a career year.

At this point that's basically what they need to do. Get 2 capable starters in here to take innings, relieve pressure from the young guys, etc. No silly contrivances for guys who were studs 3 years ago.

One of those for the 35 year old injured pitcher is too many. Them liking Price - who, although in decline, was one of the best pitchers in baseball several years ago - is the way the White Sox FO has viewed the game for a long time. Maybe Rutherford - if they must have Price.

Yep Yep (that's why he's on the block hoping some dupe will trade real talent for him) and Yep And, as said above, it all helps out the RedSox with their financial problems (just like they did for the Indians last season; I would suggest helping themselves instead)

I read somewhere that he's lost a lot on his fastball; thus the control issues. But still, for #5, seems good. And he might figure out how to pitch with less velocity

Back to the topic, when the Price thing first came up, the idea was the RedSox had to throw in Benentendi to get someone to take Price. Now we're talking Vaughn and/or Madrigal for a 34 year old pitcher and/or Benentendi (a nice player, but not special). And if you're worried about Ryu's health, why not Price's? Walk away from that nonsense.

Friedman v. Hahn. It's like deciding between lobster and Filet; a BMW or Lexus. Let's see - while Hahn drafted Vanderbilt's Fulmer, 16 picks later, Friedman picks Walker Buehler. The next year, Hahn again picking well ahead of the Dodgers (that happens when you field a bad team) selects Collins and Burdi in round 1; Friedman picks Lux and Will Smith in round 1. Friedman also got Muncy and Turner for nothing. You see, Friedman makes up for his gaffes. Hahn has to tear the entire team down, such as it was, to recoup the talent from his gaffes. And from the continued moribund drafting, the rebuilt gets stretched. The FA signings have been 5 bad/1 good. The trades for vets - other than Soria, which one has been a plus? Were the Sox better off letting Avi and Flowers (to sign Navarro!!) go?

Hahn has been consistently terrible at trading for veterans and at trading away prospects. His Shields trade kneecapped this organization. Big difference between that and getting good prospects for high-end players in their prime, at low cost, like he did with Sale, Eaton and Quintana. And beyond those 3, he didn't accomplish much at all in his dispersal. Most secondary trades were giveaways for Rule 5 guys.

They shouldn't. And if good prospects are required, they shouldn't make the trade. He's an aging pitcher who wasn't anything special last year and who has pitched 1/2 a season in 2 of the last 3 years. That's the price to pay. Boston may not like it. But the Sox can go free agent route if they don't like it. Most prospects don't pan out. But most GMs understand which ones are real prospects with potential and which are limited. Unfortunately, the Sox GM is not one of the "most" and you can't take the chance with him dealing prospects. He's really bad at the veteran side of the trades too.

Agree- Engel improved a lot with the bat last year. Another step up in improvement and he's a pretty good player.

They are happy to be at the table for premium talent. They hit on 1 of 2 of their targets and continue to have great conversations.

Note the word "feigned". If your #6 prospect yields Mazara what does that tell you about this organization? The pitchers that the Rangers signed miss bats; Nova, whom the Sox traded for last season, does not. Sox could use those 2 pitchers.

Luhnow rebuilt the team in 3 years.

Don't sign Castellanos. Don't tie yourself to another player who can't defend. And I will point out that Adam Engel had an OPS over .840 against LHP last year. He's always shown big splits, and his overall O took a big jump last year. And he brings some D. (I'll now duck). Sign pitching.

The reason is that a)the Sox got very little from secondary trades and b) their drafting/development of their own players remains bottom quartile and c) their 3rd tier free agent signings, particularly pitching have been terrible. Honestly, 2 solid #4 starters would help this team immensely right now.

Well he successfully feigned high demand for a flawed player he was trying to get rid of, such that he got a GM to give him its #6 prospect for him. That's something.

I can think of only one trade for a veteran by this FO that has been a positive (Soria) and several that have been devastatingly negative. And most of it wasn't bad luck: it was self-induced. So put me in the "scared" category. But I will say, they are certainly due for a good one.

All that stuff Hahn said about trading prospects only for young players with 4 or 5 years of control? Forget it. This is trade the top prospects for 2 years of a veteran top of offers, with Hahn as the dupe. And, no, an injured Chris Sale does not warrant a top prospect. Good lord.

Don't worry, the W Sox will.

For Palka and Reed. No outgoing pitching.

That's not how Rick Hahn does salary dumps; the Red Sox will wrangle a good prospect or 2 out of him, if they know what they're doing.

The "industry" probably has a better idea of the guys in his farm - which ones have real potential - than he does.

Price +40% of his contract should be for free.

The risk is 2 years of control, with this team nowhere near ready to win with our without him.