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When will they start doing that?

There's always a reason; always an excuse. At some point you have to deliver.....unless you are Rick Hahn, in which case just being Rick Hahn is delivery enough. Rick Hahn doing trades for veterans....can't wait.

We don't know what the Sox offered, so we don't know if they overeplayed their hand. But last year they low-balled; hopefully they didn't this year. And no, he isn't worth twice what other guys are worth; but they don't need those other guys - they need a TOR guy. The Nats overpaid for Corbin and won a title. And since the Sox don't adhere to many of the practices of winning organizations, it's okay with me if they don't adhere to the "not-overpaying" practice as well.

Wheeler is a solid 2. That's what the Sox need. There really is no fall-back option.

Well he had an excellent year and they won a ring; they had the front line pitching to match the Astros. As for Puig, not a big fan either, but I haven't seen any solid choices. Can't the Sox develop an outfielder for goodness sakes...whose the last one developed from draft to an above average starter? Rowand?

I hope you're right. But Sox have a lot to fix themselves. They really could use a real 8th inning flamethrower, e.g. And a RF (although I'd be satisfied with a Puig type). If the Sox like Wheeler, they need to overpay for him. That's how the Nats got Corbin; they really liked him (and they were correct in that assessment) and they paid a premium price. And were rewarded.

I was thinking 4/$85. But he's worth 5/$110; it may be above market, but he's worth it.

False choice; 1 year rents are not the only trading option...unless you are reactive instead of proactive; play on the other team's terms and lack creativity. Plus, what Sox prospects have real trade value, but whom the Sox have no real need as they are surplus?

Well if renting a player off of 73 wins was debacle and massive failure in 2014, it takes a special baseball mind like that of Rick Hahn to repeat the failed practice in 2019 coming off of 72 wins. Pass big time on 1 year rents.

Sox made the right moves today. Brewers are just clearing out the bottom part of their roster. Some just too expensive. Like Yolmer- some team will sign him for less than the Sox would have had to tender him. Shaw was unplayable last season - dropped .300 OPS points. Hard to see how that could happen in one season. Some names of the non-tendered could help the Sox. There's a pitcher on the list that some wanted to trade for. No need now - the world is our oyster.

Of that group, there are 2 for sure pitchers. 3 are coming off of injury and only 1 of those has any substantial ML experience (one has none at all). Then there is Cease who looked good in a short stint, but is no cinch; and inconsistent Lopez. And then zero in the minors behind them (except for a couple in the low minors). Regardless, if they can't sign Machado when there was no upper market competition, Betts is not realistic. On a side note, I'd like to see them trade some of the Sheets' for some similarly situated pitching (or middle infield where, as usual, they have nothing in the minors aside from Madrigal who will be needed this year).

Some pitching.

They need to do better than Treinan unless it's just a flier or unless they can identify a specific reason along with solution, for his loss of control last year. The next good trade the Sox make with Oakland will be the first...since Chet Lemon anyway.

RF is the final piece. However, the Sox are nowhere near the final piece. Add 2 starters, 2 relievers, and then they'll be close to the final piece.

Avi - he hits about the same as Villar. Now I'm not particularly interested in signing him, but he can hit as well as Villar. Puig too.

No it isn't - not even close. And Engel is the best one of the 3 no-hit guys anyway.

Still too much, they need someone who can actually play RF, and they just don't need to do all of these load up the prospects in trades stuff. Make a trade like the Brewers/Padres made to move prospects/young players around.

All of that for 2 years of an average pitcher named Dylan Bundy? Good lord. They could have just signed Kyle Gibson and gotten an equivalent, if not better, pitcher.

I hope the Sox move on from Yolmer. Can't afford more than 1 or 2 no-hit types if they really think they can contend.

It's a little surprising - not because his play has been remarkable in any way, but that the Sox seemed to have changed their minds on him.

They can get a better RF cheaper than 10Mill per annum. He's had his moments in the IF, but not consistently.

There are numerous 4th/5th starters that they could sign before having to trade for Jeff Samardzija. Sox have a SS; why in the world trade for 2 year Seager and use their only 2B prospect to do so. Trading for short term veterans put the Sox in this mess to begin with. Please don't repeat the failed practices.

This one's hard to understand beyond the "Friends and family first" aspect. The contract is well above market, he's not betting better, marginal in the field and we have DH types who should be near ready plus a top prospect 1B. I certainly hope this doesn't mean that Hahn start will start trading off his prospects again. That always = disaster.

The article did not specify 4 steps (or any other steps really).

Love the signing; the can certainly keep McCann, but he also gives them a good piece to for a trade for a RF or a #4 starter. Astros could use a catcher. Unfortunately, they don't have a RF that would fit. I wonder if they could trade him for someone like Peacock?