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Looks like another 90 loss season for Rick Hahn. He slept through the July trading period and is using September to take care of the organizational minor leaguers, instead of developing talent. How long do Williams and Hahn get to try? Per the modern rebuilds, we should contend next season.

Strikeout more than 8.1/9; WHIP under 1 or preferably under .9

Obviously he's an upgrade. It's like the Frazier move. Premature and for a not great player (1 4.2 WR and the rest 2.5 or less). The Sox were fortunate the prospects didn't do much (not so fortunate in the Shields and Samardzija trades). The problem is that it's unlikely the Sox win during his 3 years on the contract. Look at the holes on this team: RF, 2B, Catcher, CF, DH, maybe 1B. Pitching, they have 1 for sure starter; Cease is a likely, Lopez is a maybe, Kopech a maybe. So they need 2 at least starters plus an extra which leaves them with no depth (3 starters minimum). And the pen...they don't have a single "ace" in the pen and they are way short on numbers. And then there's the bench. Those holes aren't getting filled in a season and probably not 2. And the very players that could perhaps fill those holes in a year or 2 are the ones that Hahn would have to trade away for him. (And I know, he won't trade Vaughn, Madrigal, Kopech or Robert....but he'd trade a few of anyone else).

No it isn't. But that's all they have (plus 1/2 a pitching staff) after year 3 of a rebuild.

Yes, if we want to top out at 80 wins. That's the nonsense Hahn did from 2014-16: trading prospects for good/not-great players when the team is still losing 90 games. But I think it's reasonable that Boston will be pushing him. And this FO repeatedly falls for the player that the other teams are pushing.

No they shouldn't. Certainly the Sox should clean house...but not to hire Dombrowski.

Indeed it is.

As long as Hahn is GM, the Sox will have some stiff like Renteria as manager.

This team and org. is a real piece of work.

Well they won't out and out release him, but not protecting him (even though there is ample room) will have the same effect.

Sox not far ahead of KC by the run gap; and well behind Seattle. Plus, look at the 2nd half. This team got decidedly worse.

Only Detroit. This team with all of its org. minor leaguers that the FO insists on playing is really bad.

This It wouldn't surprise me if they release Mercedes after this season.

Considering that next year is year 4, does this look like a team ready to contend? It should be (with all due respect to the FO excuses and Hahn's outrageous self-serving claim that rebuilds take 7 years). The run differential is worse than teams in year 1 of their rebuild; a mere 12 runs better than the Royals. 20-25% of the roster is populated by certified org. guys. 7 straight losing seasons. A non-effort at the trade deadline. and on and on.

Renteria is probably not the worst manager in Sox history. But Hahn is neck and neck with Ed Short for the worst GM in Sox history.

This organization a fiefdom. The top priority in this organization is the comfort of Williams, Hahn and Cooper (and probably several others). If they don't win it doesn't matter.

It wouldn't surprise me. This is how insular societies operate - and the Sox organization is an insular society.

There's no reason for him to be here right now along with about half a dozen other awful veterans. This is a dog and pony show.

I can't get upset with Detweiler...he throws strikes - he gives them what he's got doing the best he can.

Great pitching. Jon Jay now has an OPS below that of both Yolmer and Engel. Bring back Cordell, bring up Mercedes...something.

Looking at the individual statistics, the Padres should be a better team than they are. They have 5 effective starting pitchers, 3 effective relievers, and only 2 or 3 holes in the lineup. The Sox need to concentrate on starting pitching in the offseason. Yea Grandal is a better catcher than McCann...but this team has basically 2 sure starters doing into next season.

The Knight's bullpen needs the veteran leadership of Santiago.

It would be really cool if Cordero is a keeper. He really hadn't pitched worth a hoot since 2016, until he joined the Sox. Detweiler has done pretty well as a starter...not so much as a reliever. Not sure why they insist on switching he and Santiago between the roles. Not sure why Santiago is up at all...if Minaya is all they have in Charlotte, he's still better than Santiago.

What about switching out Skole for Mercedes? Skole has done absolutely nothing on the major league team. Or Santiago for anyone? The pennant race in Charlotte? Good lord.

I posted at both places for a long time - only suspended at WSI once (remarkable, really). At some point, I think in the 2007-2010 period, some guys, whom I figured were WSI ex-pats, started a new site. I think it was Soxinthecity.net or something like that. It was good site, but fizzled out after a year or 2.