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I was pleased that he was the first writer that stated Maggs DIDN'T play a full season last year. And that the combination in RF last year wasn't good.

I saw that on MLB too. Wow Jermaine Dye??????

QUOTE(JimH @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 11:11 PM) Try Southport City Saloon, it's in the 2500 north block on Southport. They have always put the game on for me when I happened to wander in during a Sox telecast. They have a house beer called Southport Lager on tap which is actually Huber and it's great, I believe they have cheaper prices during happy hour. Normal price is/was $7.50/pitcher. My friend James works there!!!!

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 07:39 PM) im not a big fan of that bar at night either, but I always look for places that are empty during games so we can always switch to the sox games. If there are alot of you guys who live on the northside I think we should find a place to take over for sure. I work at Grand central on the weekends and cotts is there quite a bit so we have been watching games there since last season, but who knows about this season. I am not cool, preppie, hip enough to go to the Grand Central. Personally, I like Roses right down the street. It is open til 4 and Rose is awesome. She's gotta be over 70. Plus the place has a record playing jukebox. How cool is that? The beer is cheap as well. The TVs are a little outdated, but its a dive and I always have a great time going there. The cub fans there aren't even rude. Its probably because they are homegrown cub fans and not imports from other states.

Interesting, both are tied up. This team is showing signs of being able to comeback.

For giving the bird last night. :finger

Its garbage time at this point. If the Sox lose its okay. I am not looking forward to hearing how they can't score in spring training after just 1 game. I can see a Mariotti article tomorrow.

or maybe not

Well Konerko is up now. Maybe he can take it deep.

I must be on delay over the internet

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bunt base hit!!! Pods....

Let the 2005 season begin!!!!

This article shows he is a tool. He forgets the fact that the Sox DID offer Maggs a big contract. BY GREG COUCH :finger SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST He was out there in right field all those years, a loyal, selfless, well-behaved superstar with a work ethic. He's everything you could want in a sports hero for your kids. And now, Chicago, he's gone, thrown out with the trash like an empty carton of Chinese food. No, not him. We've already spent a week celebrating Sammy Sosa's trade. On Saturday, Magglio Ordonez quietly said goodbye to Chicago for good, agreeing to a five-year, $75 million contract with the Detroit Tigers. He is expected to sign Monday. The Sox dumped him. The Cubs passed on him. This one hurts. All he ever did for the White Sox was smack home runs and RBI, hit .300, field well and show an old-fashioned honor and class. Beat it, Maggs. Never has one guy leaving town made both teams look so bad. The Sox? Cheap, second-tier, dirty. The Cubs? Cheap, incompetent, insincere. And to think he went out begging to please, please let him stay. He called me a few weeks ago with that plea after the Sox let him go: "I'm not happy I have to leave Chicago. I was hoping the White Sox would offer me arbitration. But they never called.'' But the Cubs were going to need a right fielder once they finally ditched Sosa. Would you play for them, Magglio? "That would be nice. Really, really nice.'' Ah, well, who needs him, right? The Cubs always have prospect Jason Dubois for their World Series run. The Sox have Jermaine Dye, who used to be really good. Oh, this says so much about our teams. Some Sox fans turned on Maggs because he signed with hated agent Scott Boras. The truth is, Boras means results for players. And Maggs needed support during the Sox' yearlong undermining and smear campaign against him. And what about his injury? His mysterious knee surgery and treatment in Austria? It wasn't that mysterious. The Sox made it look that way, saying they couldn't get medical reports, they doubted he would play this season and they had nothing to do with him going there. That was believable until Ordonez produced e-mails from a team doctor suggesting he go to the guy in Austria for a procedure that is slow in gaining final approval in the United States. Let's start with the Cubs. Why didn't they sign him? Why didn't they even try? A source close to Maggs said that Ordonez was disappointed that the Cubs didn't show any interest. The company line is going to be that you couldn't risk five years of big bucks on a guy with a surgically repaired knee. But listen: Reports are that the Tigers can void the contract after next season if Maggs' knee problem comes back. So the Cubs could have had a star for the next five years if he's healthy. If he's not, they are out one year's pay. That's a chance you take if you really are trying to win the World Series at any cost. You know, Jeromy Burnitz, Sosa's replacement, is just like Sosa on the field. He's an awkward fielder and home-run hitter who strikes out a lot. He's a poor man's Sosa, but a good guy. That's what the Cubs wanted. Ordonez is a good guy and a better player than Sosa. If the Cubs wanted to win, they would have signed a closer and a leadoff hitter. It's the same troubles as last season. What are they waiting for? You cannot count on this grand starting rotation lasting for years. Greg Maddux is getting old. Kerry Wood and Mark Prior have histories of injuries. When a team that hasn't won in nearly 100 years suddenly has a chance, it needs to really go for it, no matter the payroll. Believe me, if they had signed Maggs, they would have made plenty of money from their TV and radio deals, their 3 million fans, their rooftop affiliations, their scalping business. Meanwhile, what does it say about the Sox when they can't hang on to their homegrown superstar? They never wanted to pay him in the first place and could have signed him long ago. Someone -- wink, wink -- is making him out to be greedy. Yes, the Sox offered him a big deal, but, he said, some of the money was deferred for as long as 20 years. Pay now and I'll sign now, he told them. "I don't know why they want to pull this campaign against me in the newspapers,'' he said. "The only thing I ever did in Chicago was play hard, do my job and be quiet. "They always say they want to win, they want to win. They don't care about winning. They only care about making money.'' So there it is, the anatomy of how you run a true Chicago sports superstar out of town. Beat it, Maggs. Who needs you.

I usually look at this sight to look up stats for baseball and basketball.

Wait, how do they assume Willie Harris will be the starting 2B. Why in the world would they pay a guy 2.3 mil to ride the bench????? This isn't the yankees. I'm so tired of hearing how much the Sox lost without any recognition of how much they actually gained. Forget the critics. Let them worry about more important things like sammy's boom box now being in Baltimore.

No he will have trade value. He is a switch hitter and has great power and good speed. I could see someone trading mid ranged prospects for him.

I agree with an earlier post in that they aren't going to pay Jose Valentin 3.5 mil to sit on the bench.

One thing everyone fails to realize is Maggs will be hitting in a pitchers ballpark if he signs with the Tigers. As well, he will not fave the Tigers pitching 18-19 times in the year. US Cellular field is a hitters ballpark. Maggs numbers may drop if he is with the Tigers next year.

This thread is ridiculous. Why would you compare the two now???? Because Hairston just went to the cubs??? This isn't a competition you know.

OKay, Curry just got hammered and nothing. This is getting ridiculous. I am starting to think the refs will dictate the outcome of this came.

Boston has a good gameplan. I wouldn't be surprised if Gordon fouls out soon.

No more Sosa talk, does this thread even belong here????

I wouldn't mind Rodrigo Lopez. He is a stud in the making.

They are saying Jorge is not part of the deal. Its Sosa for Hariston Jr and two minor league prospects.