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Or, think of the marketing with Moncada and Machado patrolling the infield.

Da fuq?

Yeah, I agree. But holy shit this is frustrating. I'm sure many of us thought after the information last night that today would be eventful. Turns out it's just the media arguing about whether the offer is 7 or 8 years.

Just wait until Machado signs. There will be hundreds of us nuts in here. I don't know how this new message board will handle it, but the old one would seize up, and we'd get the error that the site is too busy. We'd madly press refresh, swearing at our computers, praying to all gods that each refresh gets us back in.

If the Sox truly are at 8/$250M, going to 10/$325M is only $75M more and an average of $32.5M, which is only sightly more than the average they've purportedly offered. Funny how we use the word "only" when talking about $75M.

I still don't believe that the feeding of information from agents and teams to the media has that much influence. If the Phillies and Yankees are still in on Machado, do we really think that they're going to make a decision on an offer based on Nightengale saying the Sox are only offering 7/$200M?

That won't get him signed.

8/250 is a good starting point. If Passan's story is accurate, the Sox would be willing to add years and money. They're not going to go in and give them their best offer first. Hopefully true negotiations start soon.

I'm surprised he's not retweeting Nightengale about the Sox NOT offering 8 years.

I didn't see him say that either.

This is the most smoke we've seen yet. Could be due to the report that the Phillies seem to be focusing more on Harper. I tend to believe that there truly is an 8-year offer on the table and that the Sox are willing to go higher. I hope Machado isn't waiting for Harper to sign because this could drag on another week or more. The optimistic side of me thinks we see a lot more information today, including a suggestion that the Sox and Machado are in final negotiations.

Exactly. He could have said he felt confident and he trusted his source and left it at that. Instead he was a douche and got douchier as each day passed.

It's like he promised someone would buy a Corvette and that person bought a Camaro, Mustang, Charger, and a Jaguar. "Interesting to note that this person doesn't drive any of these cars on Sundays and alternating Thursdays, so..."

Maybe nothing. All we had to go by was the media and "sources" saying the Yankees were in it.

Which the Sox would be with Manny on board. Well, maybe not a media favorite, but they would get a lot more attention.

I agree. He still makes some errors, and some bad ones at times, but he's getting better and really looks like he could be a Gold Glover there.

True. We're hearing, at least, that he prefers SS but would play 3B. It makes the most sense to have him play 3B for the Sox, but if push came to shove and playing SS was a deal breaker, I'm sure the Sox would make it work.

I want to say I'm done and that I'll stop checking this thread every 20 minutes, but I know better. Even though deep down I know nothing is going to happen today, or even this weekend, I won't be able to turn away. But this is getting ridiculous. There are still many free agents out there, and I think teams are waiting on the first domino to fall with one or both of the big two to sign.

Did anyone really think Hahn was going to say that Jay was signed to get Machado? Or that Jay would say that he was signed to help recruit? No one can be surprised by what was said. And no one should be surprised that it's being reported that the Yankees are "not out of it." So, essentially nothing has changed. Looks like another day of refreshing, refreshing, refreshing and getting no new news.

LOUD NOISES!

Will Dan Clark delete his Twitter account?

I predict 150 pages by 3:30.

If that's the case, there will be some unhappy Yankees fans.

One year deal with an option for a second could be a good way to go in case some of the pitching doesn't pan out as predicted.

If we as fans can figure that these tweets about low offers are a possible way to get other teams to react, don't you think the teams are smart enough to realize that? I can't imagine the Phillies seeing these tweets and saying, "Okay we only need to offer $225M to get him."