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Rush Limbaugh has conceded that Biden has won. And apparently the inner circle at the White House are debating on further legal action or dusting off the TrumpTV idea.

MAGA heads will explode. I'll be tuning in and watching Twitter.

Hindsight tells us that may be true. But because Trump took FL and OH, which were hopeful for Biden, there was a lot of concern. Those who really understood what was going to happen with the mail-in votes being counted late were much more confident. The general Democratic public was very concerned Tuesday night. I know I went to bed expecting another 2016.

And it's Friday. The beer is going to taste so much better tonight.

Without a Senate majority, it'll be tough for Biden to get some of the potential cabinet members confirmed. However, even if he ends up placing some more centrist people, they'll be much better than the clowns in place now.

What network will call first? And how long before the meltdown from the White House? *pops popcorn*

PA could very likely be called today, NV should be called today, and GA could also be called. AZ won't matter, but there's still a chance for Biden to win there, too. If he takes all four, the elections ends up not being that close. Biden would have 306 electoral votes. Even without AZ, he's at 295. Again, had some states, especially PA, been allowed to count mail-in votes early, this could have been called Tuesday night.

Meanwhile, Steve Bannon got banned from Twitter for suggesting that Dr. Fauci and FBI Director Wray be executed.

Nate Silver said in a tweet that he thinks GA is likely Biden and AZ is still lean Biden. He also eluded that NV and PA are essentially over (in favor of Biden).

90% of the remaining ballots in NV are from Democratic-heavy Clark County. I think NV is essentially over.

Just read something on Twitter about how different states handle mail-in votes vs day-of votes. If every state had counted mail-in and early votes first, things would look very different. The results would be the same, but if Biden ends up winning PA, GA, AZ, and NV in addition to WI and MI, the race could have been called as early as late Tuesday or early Wednesday. As it is, Biden's performance was looking underwhelming. Everything is counted right away, his performance looks pretty good if he takes three of PA, GA, AZ, and NV.

Jumping ship already?

And now Biden's required votes to take Georgia is down to 64%.

Biden's requirement to take PA is down to 60% of the remaining votes. Looking bleaker by the hour for Trump.

It's quite possible, if Trump loses, he creates his own TV network. The silent majority, as they call themselves, would be an instant audience for him. They'll just get louder and more obnoxious.

Nate Silver at 538 is saying that he believes Nevada is close to being called. Just speculation, but based on the amount of vote in and what's left, it doesn't look like there's any hope for Trump.

They may know (or maybe not), but stuff like this feeds right into Trump supporters' thinking. If you look at Twitter, the amount of supporters claiming "fraud" and a "rigged vote" or "dead people voting" or "people voting more than once" is staggering. Putting something like this out will just get them more wound up and claim that the networks, including their previously loved FOX News, are in on the scam.

So, if Nevada is called for Biden by Fox news and/or the other outlets that called Arizona for Biden, do they call the presidential race? I can't imagine they would unless they go with "apparent winner". My guess is that they don't really say anything.

I don't know if I've ever seen the word rigged so many times as I have in the last couple days on Twitter.

Regardless of what happens in the end (a Biden win or a Trump win), the Democratic party needs to take a close look at themselves and figure out how to improve. There was no blue wave, and taking over the Senate seems unlikely. Biden may win, but it'll be a close finish and not the same-night whalloping they wanted/expected. They are out of touch with Latinos, they lost some of the black male vote, and there's still people voting for the other party because of who the Democratic nominee was. If you look at the field of Democratic hopefuls that entered the race, who was better qualified to take down Trump? I don't know if there was anyone better, and it's looking like Biden might be just good enough. And that "just good enough" was helped by some prominent Republicans backing him because he wasn't Trump. Also, COVID, and Trump's handling of it, helped Biden. If Biden wins, my guess is Kamala runs in 2024. Would she be a strong enough candidate to fight off Trump Jr or (shudder) Tucker Carlson? How does the party as a whole get more voters? How can they go into 2024 feeling good about their chances? I obviously don't have the answer, but the party needs to take a close look at themselves.

True. Maybe a little more insane than usual.

Latest slug of votes in PA went 92% to Biden. Votes coming in from the Philadelphia area are running about 80% Biden, but the expected remainder should/could be higher for Biden as they are mail-in votes. If there are enough votes left to count, it's looking promising for Biden. Trump's attack on voting by mail is backfiring in states that count their mail-in votes last. It looked like big leads for him in PA, GA, MI, and WI before mail-in votes were counted. Now he may possibly lose all four states. Possibly.

Nevada looks safe for Biden, based on the expected split of votes still to be counted. Georgia may be slipping to Biden (it's going to be very close either way). Arizona still looks like it could stay in Biden's column. And Pennsylvania is up for grabs, with remaining votes looking blue. Many more paths for Biden than Trump, but things could change. Hopefully this is resolved by today or tomorrow. Then, if Biden wins, we'll have to deal with lame duck Donald for a couple months. It'll be loud, insane, and whiny.

Slim but not zero. I think their best hope is for both GA races to go to a runoff and then win both of those. In that scenario, the Senate would be split 50/50, and Harris would be the tiebreaker...if Biden wins. As it stands now, it looks like it might be 51/49 GOP after the runoff in January.

Reading that, it looks like Biden would need 65% of the remaining votes to win PA. That seems quite possible based on what has been coming in today.