Butter Parque
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Again, back to slavery...inequality...take no ownership of your own life. Blame everyone else for your problems. The other guy on here said he grew up in a nice area, went to a good school, achieved a master’s degree. Good for him. Is it a coincidence that he also said he had two parents in his household? Is it a stretch to assume that they placed a value on education? No one believes that racism doesn’t exist. Racism exists in every country on earth and it will until the end of time. But that doesn’t mean that everyone is required to live a life of victimhood that ends with a prison sentence or a bullet to the head with a red flag in your back pocket. if you have parents who truly care about you having a better life than they did, you can certainly make it.
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Generally, i think the public school system is awful in the US. What i learned in school didn't help in college. What i learned in college didn't help in the working world. Push through and make do. Do I think growing up with one parent is just as effective for your long-term success as growing up with two? Hmmm, no I don't think so. Government statistics bare that out. It's why I've been reiterating on here time and time again that FAMILY is what separates the black community from their demographical peers. Perhaps having 5 kids with 3 dads is a bad idea...Perhaps having ANY kids when you have no education and you're already on public assistance is a bad idea...It's called personal responsibility. Sadly, the caucasians now seem to be adopting this suicidal practice. If you want your kid to have a legitimate chance at a quality life you should have a spouse and if needed, both should have careers before that kid becomes a thought. Do I think it's easier to get ahead in life if you come from money or poverty? Do you really need me to answer that? You know what stops the perpetual cycle of poverty? Two parents...placing an emphasis on education...raising those kids to be respectful to anyone they interact with...not allowing your 13 year old to be out at all hours of the night. All of those things can help in producing a child who's got a shot to make it in life. We all require some good luck and good timing at various moment sin or life, but if you have those pillars in place, your odds increase substantially.
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You make an argument that no one could ever debate. Basically saying that there's racism everywhere, but you just wont see it in front of your eyes doesn't do anything for anyone. Were you deprived of an education because of your skin color? If so, how do you know? Were you deprived of a job because of your skin color? If so, how do you know? Who was hired in your stead and please advise on the proof that the hiring manager is indeed a racist. Were you harassed by the police because you were black? if so, how do you know? As a white man, I was pulled over on a highway for having a parking permit hanging on my rear-view mirror. Maybe cops are just jerks? I was also pulled over (guns drawn) for driving around an area that is apparently known for "heavy drug activity". That was the reason provided to me. I was merely looking for a school where I had to take an exam the next morning. Again, cops can be jerks.
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No, thanks No interest in being shamed by a "progressive media company". It would be like me sending you Breitbart articles and telling you to become enlightened. My guess is it tells me that as a white person who had parents that got an education and worked hard in order to buy a house in the suburbs, I should feel guilty, as there's someone my age in the Queensbridge projects who didn't have those same advantages. And all of it stems from whites enslaving blacks, stealing their money, incarcerating them, etc. Again, the message is don't bother trying if you're black. Too many invisible forces against you. Continue to have children out of wedlock, work service-industry jobs, live in section 8 housing, and bring your WIC checks to the bodega. I truly feel for a black kid growing up who would be forced to listen to that message. He/she would be better off living on Mars.
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You can call me ignorant all you want. Walk around feeling guilty all your life and see where that gets you.
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No, I don't. It's a crutch for people looking for excuses for why they don't succeed. A black man dies at the hands of a cop and all of a sudden it's some sort of symbol for everything bad in the world. The facts don't bare any of that out. Daniel Shaver died at the hands of a police officer in the most disturbing way I've ever seen with my own eyes. I'm assuming no one on here gave a damn at the time. There certainly weren't any Puma stores looted as a result of it.
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This is insanity. A presidential candidate who supports this type of legislation would lose in a Goldwater/Mondale fashion.
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I'm not going to keep going with you. You have your religion and you can stick to it. The idea that anything I said is racist is factually incorrect and despicable on your part.
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Last post for today, as everyone is just reiterating everything they've already said. I didn't say abandon. Like I said, there are more programs currently in place to help those in poverty than I can fit into this text box. At some point, you have to make the effort too. I don't think I ever mentioned "brutally policing" them. But, yes, there should be cops in those neighborhoods if you're interested in keeping blacks safe.
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They owe themselves and their family a better life than they have. I've repeatedly stated how they can provide a better future for their kids.
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Yes, it's a mighty force. It's absent parents, little household discipline, very little emphasis on education. I don't blame the kids. I blame the parents.
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So go help them. Do all you can. See if it moves the needle. The trillions spent in government programs haven't helped. Maybe billions in reparations will.
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That's the ultimate irony. You're making an argument that blacks have no hope, but I'm the one who's looking down on them? Have a good day. The weather is nice over here.
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This is all very trite. Whether you're white or black, tell your kids that they have no chance for success and don't be shocked if they achieve nothing. If they want to teach their kids that there's a boogeyman out there to get them if they are attempt to succeed, then let me keep my tax dollars because they have no hope anyway. The idea that all blacks are being held down by this invisible force is just insane. I don't know, go to the office parks once in a while, there's plenty of African Americans out there earning a living. Most of them got an education. They pay taxes. I have doubts that any of them would resort to a level of lawlessness that includes burning down a building or stealing sneakers. But I guess they snuck past the society that sought to oppress them.
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No, it's not an overnight solution. You need today's generation to stick around and actually raise their children. I believe that would have an enormous effect on the lives of those children and their prospects over the next decades. Treating them like troglodytes, who have no hope and no purpose helps no one.
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Again, I pay for countless social programs so that those in poverty have food, shelter, medical care, etc. I pay for the extra police needed to patrol their dangerous neighborhoods. I pay for the creation of these charter schools so that they have access to an even better education than their current schools can afford them. There are endless amounts of scholarships made available specifically for African-Americans. In my field, if they are the owner of their business, they are guaranteed a piece of the government contracts that go out for bid. You need to be specific on why they don't have boots after all of that.
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You can believe that if you'd like. I believe the knee on their neck is the upbringing they have within their family structure. None of the endless amounts of social programs we have is going to move that knee.
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You go talk to them. Go into Social Work if you'd like and you can make all the house-calls you please. I don't want to talk to them. If they had a mother and a father around who disciplined them, who made it a requirement for them to perform in the classroom, I don't believe they'd need to turn to drug-dealing as a means to get by. As a taxpayer, I'm often paying for their school breakfast, school lunch, section 8 housing, WIC/EBT. How much more can others do before they lift themselves up and search out something better?
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But brainwashing the white youth into walking around with some sort of generational guilt is a good thing for their prospects in life?
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I don't know what to tell you. Going through life thinking there's no way that you can ever succeed isn't exactly the best recipe for ever actually succeeding. If I told my child that he/she has no chance of ever making it in life, what would be their reason for living?
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Staying around to raise your kids is not a special feat. It's also not discriminatory. 65 percent of black kids live in a household with one parent. Why should anyone else be responsible for raising those kids other than the parents who conceived them? Use some form of birth control, don't have kids until you can afford it, when you do have kids, place an emphasis on education within the household. Let's just try that experiment and see where the black community is in 20 years.
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And that doesn't have anything to do with personal responsibility?
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Sorry, but new textbooks, universal pre-K, more nurses, jobs programs, etc. aren't going to help. Children need parents in their household who value education over all else. If the child doesn't have parents who place an emphasis on ensuring the child does his/her HW, studies for exams, etc. no government program is going to move the needle. At some point, personal responsibility needs to come to the forefront. The government was never intended to be a babysitter, social worker, shrink.
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That is a very extreme idea. You'd disband the police and then train-and-hire volunteers to patrol the most violent neighborhoods with the expectation of exclusively using non-violent tactics in order to keep the peace and maintain safety for the residents. My guess is that by enacting that plan, George Floyd types are going to be left more vulnerable to violence than they are currently.
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Keuchel to Sox, 3 years, 55.55 million; 4th year team option
Butter Parque replied to Heads22's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Very cool. Reason to watch for more than a couple of months next season. Should be in the race for a playoff spot into August/September.