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QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 03:26 PM) I think, if I'm giving Nuke the benefit of the doubt, the issue is not that he doesn't care about poverty and structural racism, etc. He just doesn't think the government is what fixes those things. I don't know if his solution is time, business, philanthropy, or what....but I think this is what he means. that's great of you to clarify, but he still (as well as the rest of 'em) refuse to say what THEY think will help, if not the gov't.

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 02:43 PM) http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_...-01-24-04-19-05 But at least he gets to keep his pension. Second sick motherf***er in CA teacher union who gets to f*** the taxpayer after f***ing kids. This guy should just be used as chum. Take a bow teachers union, you deserve it. i guess we should fire all football coaches too then...

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 02:09 PM) No, you've just wasted more money. What's your age/occupation btw Reddy? Just curious. you're not gonna like this. 26, actor. EDIT: or you're gonna really love it. haha

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 02:01 PM) They can do something about it they just chose not to. In spite of all the damage your ideology has done to class mobility in this country its still America and if you work hard enough you can enjoy a middle class livelihood. Unfortunately the recklessness with which we've treated our currency and the addiction to saddling the middle class with obscene taxes has made the amount of work required to enjoy that livelihood much greater, but you just got to suck it up. Welcome to the world, s*** isn't fair. yep. by suggesting investing in schools ive ruined their ability for upper mobility. makes sense. no child left behind.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 01:55 PM) Nah, that is a dumb, bad-faith interpretation of what I said given the context of the discussion. but if you're suggesting that you're cool with structural racism and generational poverty that's good to know are you surprised? it's about par for the course for this guy.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 01:53 PM) No, you just try and frame the argument to "SOMETHING MUST BE DONE, WHAT SHALL WE DO" and get a little hissy when someone brings up the idea of just doing nothing. RIGHT! YOU DON'T CARE! as I said. so... not.. a myth...

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 01:46 PM) The Great Liberal Myth: I'm better than you because I steal money from some people to waste on others. i'd rather be on that side of the coin than the side that f***s people over who can't do anything about it.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 01:40 PM) You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Having a cool teacher means jacks*** when you go home and have to dodge bullets or your older brother/father/uncle is dealing drugs and thieving and whatever else. You act as if a new teacher will suddenly change all of the roadblocks in these kids' lives. it can have an impact. it's worth trying. what's your suggestion?

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 01:34 PM) "need"? Like we are absolutely compelled to to meet the basic requirements for survival? Nah ha ha ha, no we dont "need" to do anything. We could just sit back and not care. I mean we've amended, changed, trashed and created all the legislation necessary to remove segregation and bigotry from the state. That's been done, that was this countries' cross to bear for all the bad s*** it got itself caught up in with the past. you don't care, which makes you awful. some of us do, which makes us better people. i can live with that.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 01:19 PM) And where are the role models? At home? Nope. At school? Nope, they don't go (see the CPS wanting to close a bunch of schools because of a lack of attendance). The "role models" are in the streets, where these kids learn early on that money and street cred comes from a life of drugs and crime. lol thus why i said investment in schools would help. good teachers can make kids want to go to school. yeah, it won't fix all the problems, but it won't HURT taking a bunch of small steps is a lot better than doing nothing, like you're suggesting

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 01:06 PM) In unrelated news, New Mexico Bill Would Criminalize Abortions After Rape As 'Tampering With Evidence' It remains a mystery as to why Republicans can't win a majority of the female vote. Republicans are just so good at shooting themselves in the foot. It's pretty awesome. I guarantee in 20 years the two parties in America will be the Democrats and the Libertarians (unless it's still the Republicans and they adopt Libertarian principles)

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 12:34 PM) You could put a brand new state of the art school in the middle of the Austin neighborhood, fill it with the best teachers in the country, and it wouldn't change a thing. This myth of the lack of financial resources is a liberal pipe-dream that's decades in the making and it's continually shown to be false. We spend more money per student than anyone in the world and we have little to show for it. i honestly disagree. i don't think you can overvalue the importance of role models regardless of where kids grow up.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 12:52 PM) Don't you hate on stair steppers - they are the s***. well... not really. any machines like ellipticals, steppers etc outlive their usefulness reeeeally fast as your muscles adjust to the extremely repetitive motions.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 12:23 PM) You are what you grow up with. I think the only true way to eradicate this problem is to ship those kids off to different areas of the state/country and get them out of that environment. Unfortunately, that's a harsh measure and will never be a serious option. or, ya know, put money and resources into improving the schools in those areas?

QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 11:56 AM) Best product name ever, you have to admit it haha i'll give you that

QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 11:51 AM) I'm certainly not against the organic movement, the notion of buying local, etc. but we must also insist on efficiency and not be anti-science because of fuzzy notions on what is and is not natural and the idea that unnatural=bad. It makes sense as a consumer to not consume things that logically could harm AND are not researched. As a keeper of the Earth, we must also not shut out artificial methods of sustaining human life, though. Basically -- watch the Penn and Teller Bullsh!t episode on Organic Food and then watch Food, Inc. and then tell me how your brain feels i'm pretty sure i said organic is a piece of crap term. and maybe this is like our modern day version of natural selection. people who buy local and eat better will outlive the fatties. only downside is they'll still probably live long enough to reproduce. dumb.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 09:00 AM) Speaking of hot sauce, a guy I know is making a fat-burning hot sauce. Has a couple fat burning ingredients, most notably raspberry ketones and capsaicin (which is normally too spicy to put in any other sort of supplement). Decent chance it doesn't help you burn any appreciable amount of fat, but it is still aptly named "Thermogenesauce" http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/thermog...ce-5-fl-oz.html

QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 11:41 AM) There is not sufficient evidence to show that organic food (which is necessarily non-GMO) is more nutritious than non-organic (which is usually, though not always, GMO). The following study, which was actually an analysis of 250 other studies, from Stanford found that there is no demonstrable difference in nutrient density between these two sorts of foods. There were more pesticides in non-organic foods, though both had acceptable amounts. There were more instances of antibiotic resistant bacteria in non-organic foods, though both were considered acceptable amounts. They were equal in terms of the organisms that cause food poisoning. I highly doubt that most GMOs could harm humans, but I am not against researching things. Lots of things that make sense don't hold up to scientific inquiry. edit: link for perusal http://annals.org/mobile/article.aspx?articleid=1355685 Organic is a piece of crap term in general. Buying local from farmers markets is the way to go. and regardless, we're not really talking about nutrients, but the "extras" like those pesticides that come with it. And no, in small doses, the pesticides probably don't matter. But my concern is over continued low-dose exposure over a LONG period of time. Obviously that's harder to test, but I just feel like 50 years from now we'll be looking at GMOs the same way we look at leaching. That was good for you too. ...

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 11:32 AM) The China Study was pretty much bulls*** IIRC in what way? i think it's pretty legit

http://www.monsanto.com/newsviews/Pages/food-safety.aspx#q1 The China Study, and plenty of other studies, all say hi and would like to smack you in the face.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 11:26 AM) Monsanto is literally the devil. agreed.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 11:22 AM) Is it a refusal or a legal inability? the head of monsanto, who is now the head of the FDA, said "we see no reason to test GMOs at this time"

f*** you guys i'm gonna have to try it now.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 11:19 AM) There are reasons to inquire and be skeptical of GMOs, but you can't deny the utility of crops that are less likely to die and produce more food. This type of innovation will certainly extend the amount of time man can spend on Earth. sure, but if that food is less nutritious and potentially dangerous... well... not really worth it now is it? my question is why does the FDA refuse to test GMOs?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 24, 2013 -> 11:09 AM) If you want to break up gangs, you need to get to the root of why those gangs exist. education and poverty